New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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manqiangrexue
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broadsword
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China haters gonna say fake. LOL.
Highly recommend Denza D9, which perfectly fits your 3 criteria. I'm the current owner of a 2024 D9 DM-i 2WD 1050 (combined range), bought about a month ago. Here's my stats for the past month:
Ignore the last 50km average because we just finished highway driving with the battery depleted. Over the past month, it costed us 16KWH+2L gas for 100kms, so it's 16*1rmb/KWH charging+2*8.5rmb/L 92gas= 33 RMB/100km on commercial fast chargers. But we mostly charge at home for less than 0.5rmb/KWH. So our cost is closer to 28 RMB/100KM. For 3500 kms, we paid 980 RMB or 130 USD in energy cost for the past month! Half of the 3500 kms are driven on 100-120 km/h highway.
We use the D9 for business during the week with a driver visiting Shanghai suburban offices and Zhejiang clients. I drive the family on weekends. The third row is quite spacious for 2 large adults on a 200km trip.
I test drove a Aito M7 and sat in a friends Tank 500. Neither of them is as spacious and physically imposing as D9 for regular business use. Have you tried the Li L7? About the same price as the M7 in China but I like it a lot better as a passenger.
SteelBird
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Let's assume that I'd select the Denza D9 (100K is a bit expensive for me). With the 100+ km electric range of the 40kWh battery, it is enough for my daily commute. I will only need gasoline on long distance journey. If I keep the gasoline engine unused for a long period, would it hurt the ICE?
2025 Dolphin is launched already. no more 300 km version
The Denza dealer suggests that we use one tank of gas every month to keep the engine in the game. We are on our second tank of gas, but we could stretch one tank of gas to two months if we wanted to save more.
The first scheduled maintenance is 3750 kms on HEV (engine on) or 6 months of ownership, whichever comes first. At the current gas burn rate of 500 kms/month HEV, we'll not get to 3750 kms by 6 months. The rest of the 7 free maintenances are scheduled for each additional 5000 kms on HEV with no time limits. This is quite a departure from my past gas car experiences.
$100K is about double for what I paid. But how expensive it is really depends on the resale value in a couple of years. If market value is $70K in 2026, with $15K saved at the gas station, you would have only spent $15K owning it for 2 years. That's how I look at it. And I fully expect to trade in my D9 in two years for something better in Denza lineup.
EDIT: The D9's 200 km EV range is realistically only 150 km CLTC. At 25% of battery left, the engine will kick in.
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What happened to dolphin sales? This is supposed to be one of their top sellers.
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supercat
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There is no way you can do this with an ICE car except with Yangwang U8 briefly, which is an EREV.
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