New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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2 things that kind of work against this.
1. You have literal under the hood moves by Geely in expanding their European footprint. Mercedes is sourcing their 4 cylinder engine from China (Geely/Renault Horse powertrain JV). Obviously Renault will source future small ICE and PHEVs from this JV. Mitsubishi and Nissan are also sourcing through Horse (the two are in an alliance with Renault).
2. The EU market is simply not very profitable. It is dominated by econobox type cars. Why chase bad money?
Not much new in this video that has not been mentioned earlier.
However, I love the production quality of western media. The Chinese media houses are lacking in terms of media production quality. The likes of CGTN produces absolute garbage. I still see CGTN videos in 720p resolution in 2026.
However, I love the production quality of western media. The Chinese media houses are lacking in terms of media production quality. The likes of CGTN produces absolute garbage. I still see CGTN videos in 720p resolution in 2026.
Data from the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) shows that in the third week of March, the average daily retail sales of passenger vehicles nationwide were 51,000 units, a 7% decrease compared to the same period last year, but a 62% increase compared to the same period last month.
It seems that the scare in January and February was just a false alarm, the market is recovering.
It seems that the scare in January and February was just a false alarm, the market is recovering.
As i already said, everybody knows China is ôe of the worse countrys out there in PR. LOL nothing new there. Even Turkey(TRT), Russia (RT) and India(WION etc) now do a better job at PR/propaganda for their country eventhough they have less capabilties .
Aesthetics are the ultimate proof of value. People claim that substance is all that matters but they are wrong. High visual quality is the most effective way to communicate inner excellence. No one chooses what looks uninspired.
Given Xiaomi’s ambition and corporate culture, there’s no way they’d want to form a joint venture with these Japanese companies that are just sitting on their laurels.
Japanese companies are only fit to be parts suppliers, if they can survive fierce competition.
I will repost my response from the Misc. News thread:
The Afeela was first shown in 2023. Back then, it was just a concept.
Normally 3 years to take a concept to reality would be a well run program.
However, "China speed" turned that concept (and the other Honda EVs) into a massive financial loss of $16b in that time instead.
What's crazy is that Chinese EVs aren't even available in the US, the Afeela wouldn't have needed to compete with them. However, the internet has pushed people to completely change their expectations on EVs. In Canada, it went as far as influencing policy as the majority of Canadians were more interested in affordable EVs than industry protectionism.
Some additional speculation...
The green light for production for such an underwhelming car (pre production models were built and the showroom open) begs the question, is this the best the Japanese could produce? Two hallowed Japanese brands, Sony and Honda, with a strong technical history, but they were okay with this? The only rationale is that Honda did not want to be left out of the (then) burgeoning EV market, but it was the best they could do.
Going back to my other post earlier this week, the "China speed" effect in EVs turned the entire industry upside down.
The Afeela was first shown in 2023. Back then, it was just a concept.
Normally 3 years to take a concept to reality would be a well run program.
However, "China speed" turned that concept (and the other Honda EVs) into a massive financial loss of $16b in that time instead.
What's crazy is that Chinese EVs aren't even available in the US, the Afeela wouldn't have needed to compete with them. However, the internet has pushed people to completely change their expectations on EVs. In Canada, it went as far as influencing policy as the majority of Canadians were more interested in affordable EVs than industry protectionism.
Some additional speculation...
The green light for production for such an underwhelming car (pre production models were built and the showroom open) begs the question, is this the best the Japanese could produce? Two hallowed Japanese brands, Sony and Honda, with a strong technical history, but they were okay with this? The only rationale is that Honda did not want to be left out of the (then) burgeoning EV market, but it was the best they could do.