I'm sorry, it's just that I heard these things from my dad, a bunch of here-says from salesmen or whatnot.
I wasn't trying to rage bait. I just wanna know if they're true or not.
New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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I wasn't trying to rage bait. I just wanna know if they're true or not.
The GWM CEO has attacked BYD (they often do so when they release a new car, targeting BYD) and other media in China, as well as outside China, employing a black media strategy. Are you from Thailand? I usually see many black BYD cars on Facebook from Thailand, and quite popular, I think it is normal in Thailand. About BYD problems, they have a bad reputation in the supply chain in China because they try to maximize profit from others or try to make everything by themselves, which creates some financial risks. Just watch the video on Bilibili about it(), BYD products are also not attractive, but very good price, ok quality.
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You should know better with the fake cars thing, what kind of nonsense is that? Just use your common sense.
Yeah. Thanks for the link homie.
GWM does not have their own batteries technology, that is why they are jealous of BYD's supply chain.
Many are making EV passenger cars.
But not many are making EV transportation truck..
Now, CHina going hard for both EV passenger cars, truck, I wonder how many more years before it would substantially cut its oil import?
Like dropping oil import 50% or more.
But not many are making EV transportation truck..
Now, CHina going hard for both EV passenger cars, truck, I wonder how many more years before it would substantially cut its oil import?
Like dropping oil import 50% or more.
In fact, many companies in China are making EV trucks. BYD batteries are actually used in some of them like XCMG & FAW Jiefang. We are at about 23% right now in EV penetration for HDTs.
supercat
Colonel
China just discovered 1.31 million tonnes of lithium oxide.
In the not too distant future, it will be a three-way competition in China: battery swaps, ultra-fast chargers, and solid-state batteries.
According to the WSJ, Tesla is not doing well in China.
Xpeng G7 is just more trouble for Tesla.
In the not too distant future, it will be a three-way competition in China: battery swaps, ultra-fast chargers, and solid-state batteries.
According to the WSJ, Tesla is not doing well in China.
Xpeng G7 is just more trouble for Tesla.
How are Chinese EV car's reliability (specifically BYD)? I was thinking, if they ever expand globally, they should repeat Japanese car brands strategy of focusing on building good brand reputation via reliability (specifically like Toyota or Honda reliability). Don't go the route of Hyundai or Kia, which is low price at the expense of poor quality/reliability, which you can get market share, but long-term reputation isn't good.
Lethe
Captain
Addendum to the above now that PHEV numbers are available:
NEVs that have reached four-digit sales in Australia across the first six months of the year:
1. Tesla Model Y 10,431
2. BYD Shark 6 10,424
3. BYD Sealion 6 4375
4. BYD Sealion 7 3756
5. Tesla Model 3 3715
6. Mitsubishi Outlander 2961
7. Kia EV5 2765
8. MG 4 2268
9. BYD Atto 3 1854
10. Geely EX5 1845
11. BYD Seal 1609
12. BYD Dolphin 1337
13. GWM Haval H6 1172
14. Kia EV3 1153
15. BMW iX1 1110
It's noteworthy that twelve of the fifteen vehicles on this list are built in China (yes, including Kia EV5). I have italicized those that are not. Previously I overestimated likely sales of Mitsubishi and Mazda PHEVs but in my defence that is because the demand for those vehicles appears to have utterly collapsed with the expiry of a tax exemption for PHEVs at the end of Q1, while BYD and GWM were relatively unaffected: Mitsubishi Outlander recorded 2544 sales in Q1 and only 417 in Q2, while in the same segment Sealion 6 recorded 2083 sales in Q1 and 2292 in Q2.
On the subject of GWM, the Cannon Alpha PHEV ute has been quite well reviewed here (example , ) as an alternative to BYD Shark 6. Slightly more expensive, but considerably more capable off-road courtesy of electric motor going into a traditional gearbox with low-range and locking differentials. The vehicle's biggest weakness is that the spare tyre must be mounted vertically to the side of the tray (or omitted entirely, but if you are happy to do that then you would probably be better off with a Shark 6 instead). Deliveries have only just started so it's not yet clear how it will fare against Shark 6 commercially, but it will be an interesting story to follow in coming months.
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