New Bomber Fleet of China's Airforce

Pointblank

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Is there a cost benefit to Heavy Bombers? Given that such aircraft would be used to launch cruise missiles at maximum range, I really would want to see the bottom line between any Bomber proposal and the cost of Long Range Missiles.

I have a suspicion that the Heavy Stealth Bomber concept is another example of glossy brochure pr convincing people that this is the standard to which all must aspire and be judged, when a close examination of the real figures will tell a very different story.

I wonder how many DF31a Rockets $1 Billion will buy you?

The long loitering times of heavy bombers is especially useful for waiting for targets to appear. Faster way to conduct a snap attack due to closer proximity to target.
 

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Ooh yeah that video. It's pretty dry though, I mean it would be nice if China was making a bomber like that. But a shame it isn't.

I think loading H-6's with FT bomb series and long range cruise missiles with nuke warheads for the latter will make a pretty good plane. A dozen or so supersonic bombers like the Tu-22M could be used for being like a bomb truck against A2G or A2A. Can escape the danger zone quickly just by going fast.
 

antiterror13

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definitely long range bomber is not a priority for PLA ... and anyway most (if not all) long range bomber roles can be done by SRBM, IRBM or even ICBM ... cheaper, less risk and accurate
 

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definitely long range bomber is not a priority for PLA ... and anyway most (if not all) long range bomber roles can be done by SRBM, IRBM or even ICBM ... cheaper, less risk and accurate
Well from what we can see, a long range bomber is not a priority.

Ballistic missiles can only do so much, I think having a bomber loiter over a battle field putting fire where needed also has it's advantages.

An upgraded H-6 could do this role. For it's "new bomber fleet" I think (apart from upgraded H-6) a range of multirole fighters with IFR could be more versatile than bombers (I'm particularly interested in JH-7/B). The problem is that china has no real indigenous tanker aircraft. H-6 tanker's load is simply too light. The C919 (near 737 size) would still be small as well I think. So China should really be investing in large transport aircraft - which we can see happening.

Note: The "upgraded H-6" should get FT bomb racks like we see on B-52's often. Or have them placed in internal bomb bays. I don't know why we hardly ever hear of H-6's deploying small PGM's. Maybe when Compass is well into it's life.
 

Lion

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Why? Doesn't PLAAF had any plans to field supersonic heavy bomber?

I think they must have at least some 50 aircraft. Just to serve as the back bone for PLAAF bomber fleet.

Just imagine you can send these aircrafts fully loaded and armed (Nukes or conventional weapons) on patrol over the Pacific Ocean, or Indian Ocean. It will surely rattle these nations like US and Japan.

This will surely put PLAAF in the world arena to have the most powerful or fearsome airforce's in the 21st century.

These supersonice big bomber are highly vulnerale to interception(big cross radar section) and modern SAM. Show in georgia war where Russian Tu-22 M3 was shot down. And it was shot down not even by modern SAM.
 

bladerunner

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Why? Doesn't PLAAF had any plans to field supersonic heavy bomber?

I think they must have at least some 50 aircraft. Just to serve as the back bone for PLAAF bomber fleet.

Just imagine you can send these aircrafts fully loaded and armed (Nukes or conventional weapons) on patrol over the Pacific Ocean, or Indian Ocean. It will surely rattle these nations like US and Japan.

This will surely put PLAAF in the world arena to have the most powerful or fearsome airforce's in the 21st century.

That would be counter productive to their soft power policy.:eek:
 

Pointblank

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These supersonice big bomber are highly vulnerale to interception(big cross radar section) and modern SAM. Show in georgia war where Russian Tu-22 M3 was shot down. And it was shot down not even by modern SAM.

No, the problem was that the Georgian-Russian War exposed a severe weakness in Russian systems, particularly in the area of ECM and reconnaissance. In the Vietnam War, American B-52D's caused severe disruption to the North Vietnamese air defence systems by effectively jamming their radar systems.
 

Delbert

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That would be counter productive to their soft power policy.:eek:

I think it wouldn't.

These planes will just be deployed to take the task in securing China's sea trade routes. Blue Water Navy will do the job, but I do believe the airforce must also be capable of doing so.

Through it I do believe having supersonic long range strategic bomber can enhance PLAAF's capability.

Especially if China plans to flex its political muscles. They can send two of these TU-22M on regular patrols in the South China Sea moving to Malacca Straits and finaly towards the Indian Ocean.

Like what Russia did on Atlantic and the Pacific.

Nations within its patrol path will surely be shaken especially the US allies, and they will began to think twice in choosing sides. If they choose to become an ally of China, that would be more beneficial, since having a lot of allies within your vital trade routes can give you much security.

Rather than having hostile nations within your trade routes.
 
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