new 60 ton tank for the PLA

rhino123

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I had a theory on the backburner that the Soviets really won the Cold War by forcing the United States to become an imperial power and thus become vulnerable to imperial overreach.
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You really have a weird theory.

Inst said:
Overall, the Korean War was a stalemate for both sides. Neither achieved their overarching objective. For the Chinese, at the end, they managed to keep a capable buffer state against a US client. For the United States, at the end, they managed to keep their authoritarian client on the Korean peninsula alive, prevent the spread of communism, and thus reduce the pressure on Japan.

From this point of view, neither the United States nor China won nor lost the Korean War.
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Actually, from what you can see... NK might have lost their overall objective and you could say that they lost the war. Their main aim was to take over the entire korea penusula which they did not achieve.

However if you look at the Chinese side... they met their objective. They push the UN and the western 'imperial' force away from their doorstep. The main reason for the Chinese to enter Korea and fight that war was to prevent the western forces from stationing at their doorstep and thus asserting pressure on China.

So the Chinese actually met this objective. So it is not a stalemate for the Chinese. It is a victory. However it is a lost to NK.

So it is actually not as simple as your assessment.

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As to whether China is a weak country or not, its d(x) of CNP is better than the United States, but its absolute current CNP is below the United States. By its own measurements, China's CNP compared to the United States is only 67%, but I'd assert when you consider diplomatic footprint, military power, and economic strength, the United States is far ahead in all three factors. The United States has a successful cultural export program in Hollywood, controls the dominant world ideology (liberalism), has the world's most powerful military, and still has an economy three times larger than China's when measured in output.

I'll continue later; I'm out to lunch.
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I do not know why do you people so obsess with comparing china with US. At present moment, even one with half a brain, would know that China is still not on par with US. You do not need to go into so many things to proof that.

And... what is your point in bringing that out for the 60ton tank?
 
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according to the latest issue of DIIC, during the late 80's Bitain's marconi-elliot provided technical assisstant to China to develop tank fire control system.
 
rhino123

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according to the latest issue of DIIC, during the late 80's Bitain's marconi-elliot provided technical assisstant to China to develop tank fire control system.
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And what has that got to do with our new 60 ton tank? If the report is correct... my question is - SO WHAT? The main thing now is that the Chinese had a fully workable and very efficient fire control system and that is the main thing.
 
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rhino123 said:
That article had nothing to do with our current thread on 60ton tank. What we are discussing here is the 60 ton tank (new MBT)
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My friend:

I just found some new photos in a Chinese website. Some readers may have interests in those photos. Do I need to open a new thread?

FYI only.

I have no comments on the so-called 60 ton tank.
 
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