Naval Rotary UAV

lcloo

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;) Two simple minded with the same thought and I hope you don't mind the rough translation from German!?

My feeling tells me its a new clean sheet design but given its shape it seems to be similar to an enlarged CHRDI (Chinese Helicopter Research and Development Institute) AV500C.

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Looks like the new naval version of AR500C/AV500C with larger engine housing and probably larger engine(s) too.

IMO, So it might not be just a recon drone but with possibly enhanced capability to carry some offensive loads or sonobuoy or mid-course signal relay for long range anti-ship missiles.

That is my two cents
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Because it's just a generic ground crew training model, I don't think it's a specific type, it's just about the size of a drone.

Maybe something like this:
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I think there are enough details on the mock up to suggest it does likely correspond to a specific drone type.
More importantly, the purpose of having these mock ups for trialling handling purposes is to see how the size of a specific expected or in existence piece of kit would fit in aboard the ship -- again, requiring a clear aircraft type to be defined.

The only exception is if the PLAN had issued specific dimensions as part of a helicopter drone requirement and the mock up here is just meant to represent the dimensions of the PLAN's specification, but if that were the case chances are they wouldn't be doing these mock up handling trials so early in its development cycle.

After all "just about the size of a drone" can mean anything -- MQ-8A, vs MQ-8B vs MQ-8C are all different sizes.
 

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I think there are enough details on the mock up to suggest it does likely correspond to a specific drone type.
More importantly, the purpose of having these mock ups for trialling handling purposes is to see how the size of a specific expected or in existence piece of kit would fit in aboard the ship -- again, requiring a clear aircraft type to be defined.

The only exception is if the PLAN had issued specific dimensions as part of a helicopter drone requirement and the mock up here is just meant to represent the dimensions of the PLAN's specification, but if that were the case chances are they wouldn't be doing these mock up handling trials so early in its development cycle.

After all "just about the size of a drone" can mean anything -- MQ-8A, vs MQ-8B vs MQ-8C are all different sizes.


Maybe we should open a new thread on this type of UAV??

at least @huitong has updated his site:



"It was speculated in June 2020 that a shipborne VTOL UAV similar to American MQ-8B is being developed for PLAN by the 602 Institute. The UAV is expected to be stationed onboard the new Type 075 LHD and Type 055 DDG."

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Is this stealthy helicopter the reason why they have not mass produced helicopters for their LHD and LPD yet?
 

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We had hint of it even when with the previous blurry pictures, but these clearer pictures do seem to represent a uav that's different in design to what we've seen from previous UAVs like the AR500C or other helicopter UAVs.

Even on the mock up, some features are notable including whatappears to be a chin mounted sensor that corresponds with what you'd expect from a chin mounted surface search radar.
The landing gear might also be represented by the two front wheels, though it's possible those wheels are just for moving the mock up and the real thing will have sled landing gear instead.
But the overall fuselage shape is definitely different to other designs we've seen in the past, as far as i can see.

Also, of course we can see the rotors fold which would be expected of a naval rotary UAV. The mock up seems to "lack" a tail rotor, but that should just be a reflection of the mock up's level of detail.


Key things we should be interested in is to cast eyes for better estimates of its size, and therefore can give us hints to its weight and performance (endurance, range payload).

The fact that a mock up is being aboard 075 so early would suggest it is already relatively far along with its development -- obviously developing and testing a rotary UAV like this can easily be done from prying eyes and without our direct knowledge.


Another thing to watch for is to see where/when 055 gets fit with this mock up or even when it gets tested with one. In particular, I wonder if the dimensions of this UAV may be sized to allow to to be fit in an 055's single Z-20 sized hangar, but that's something for later down the line.
 
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