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taxiya

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First I must admit that without having watched it, I could be very wrong. I am not to dismiss the movie's achievement either. But rather, I'd want to categorize it's position.

From what I glimpsed the trailers I must say this is not in the same league as other sci-fi like Gravity, Interstellar and Martian, but closer to something like Star War still great depends on one's taste.

Gravity and Martian are almost 100% based on known and verified technologies, the only thing makes them fiction is because nobody has done it. They can be done using today's technology even with a very small chance of success.

Interstellar has more fiction than the two above due to the fact that many of black hole's phenomenons are calculated by theory, not observed and proven yet. But the calculation is right according today's knowledge. The other fictional part is the knowledge of building anti-gravity vehicle based on unknown knowledge of black hole. I'd say Interstellar is 20% fiction and 80% scientific.

Now, how much of TWE's technology and astronomical subjects are based on known Scientifics? I mean, an unknow scientific premise is a fiction today even if it could be proven in the future.
 
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vesicles

vesicles

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solarz said:
- Wu Jing was amazing. Between this and Wolf Warrior 2, he's now my favorite actor!
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I've watched both Wolf Warrior 2 and Operation Red Sea. I liked Operation Red Sea much better. It's a pure military movie similar to Black Hawk Down. Wolf Warrior 2, in comparison, is an action movie. If Operation Red Sea managed to get into the theater first, Wolf Warrior 2 would not have been the box office smash that it was. My 2-cent.
 
solarz

solarz

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vesicles said:
I've watched both Wolf Warrior 2 and Operation Red Sea. I liked Operation Red Sea much better. It's a pure military movie similar to Black Hawk Down. Wolf Warrior 2, in comparison, is an action movie. If Operation Red Sea managed to get into the theater first, Wolf Warrior 2 would not have been the box office smash that it was. My 2-cent.
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I watched Operation Red Sea as well, and while I agree with you that it is a more military movie, I still prefer Wolf Warrior 2. I'm not a fan of serious war/military movies, and much prefer some humour spliced into violence.
 
solarz

solarz

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taxiya said:
First I must admit that without having watched it, I could be very wrong. I am not to dismiss the movie's achievement either. But rather, I'd want to categorize it's position.

From what I glimpsed the trailers I must say this is not in the same league as other sci-fi like Gravity, Interstellar and Martian, but closer to something like Star War still great depends on one's taste.

Gravity and Martian are almost 100% based on known and verified technologies, the only thing makes them fiction is because nobody has done it. They can be done using today's technology even with a very small chance of success.

Interstellar has more fiction than the two above due to the fact that many of black hole's phenomenons are calculated by theory, not observed and proven yet. But the calculation is right according today's knowledge. The other fictional part is the knowledge of building anti-gravity vehicle based on unknown knowledge of black hole. I'd say Interstellar is 20% fiction and 80% scientific.

Now, how much of TWE's technology and astronomical subjects are based on known Scientifics? I mean, an unknow scientific premise is a fiction today even if it could be proven in the future.
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You cannot categorize Science Fiction by quantifying what is fictional and what isn't. The difference between hard sci-fi and "soft" sci-fi is that the former puts a lot more focus on explaining the technologies, not that the technologies are necessarily realistic. For example, if we compare Star Wars with Star Trek, Trek is a lot "harder" than Star Wars. It doesn't mean teleporters are any more real than the Force, just that Star Trek spends more time on the ramifications of its technology.

There are two main "hand waves" in The Wandering Earth: the planetary propulsion system, and Jupiter's "gravitational spike". One sets the premise of the story, the other creates the drama. Aside from those two hand waves, other aspects are fairly hard sci-fi, even if they're not exactly rigorously scientific at times. For example, they explain why Earth needs to pass close to Jupiter in the first place, and they briefly mention the consequence of stopping the Earth's rotation.

Anyway, I highly recommend watching it!
 
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Shaolian

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AssassinsMace said:
It was a safe movie to make. The antagonist wasn't human. Beyond the science would the world actually be that cooperative? I could see a whole lot of political and religious hurdles where you would never get that kind of cooperation.
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I've never read the actual Wandering Earth short story by Liu Cixin, but from what I've read from Reddit, it seems the written story is much more complicated. There seem to be elements of rebellion/opposition against the whole idea of moving the Earth. Not everyone is united or even believed that the Sun is going to unleash hell on Earth. Some believe that it is actually a sinister ploy to create an autocratic Earth government.

I can't confirm on this, but there could be some kind of an on-going humanity civil war between the Earth government and rebel forces going on during the timeline of the movie. This also explains the reason of the existence of the somewhat heavily armed para-military forces accompanying our main protagonists in the movie, to prevent sabotage.

This whole angle isn't covered by the movie.

I think I'm going to have to read the short story…
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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Shaolian said:
I've never read the actual Wandering Earth short story by Liu Cixin, but from what I've read from Reddit, it seems the written story is much more complicated. There seem to be elements of rebellion/opposition against the whole idea of moving the Earth. Not everyone is united or even believed that the Sun is going to unleash hell on Earth. Some believe that it is actually a sinister ploy to create an autocratic Earth government.

I can't confirm on this, but there could be some kind of an on-going humanity civil war between the Earth government and rebel forces going on during the timeline of the movie. This also explains the reason of the existence of the somewhat heavily armed para-military forces accompanying our main protagonists in the movie, to prevent sabotage.

This whole angle isn't covered by the movie.

I think I'm going to have to read the short story…
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That most likely would've been a better movie to make. But not surprising they went this direction.
 
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PanAsian

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Happened to have watched both of these movies one shortly after the other recently and thought they were both good dramedies with the parallel theme of daring to care for others and oneself, with interesting circumstantial and cultural comparisons and contrasts:

Fighting With My Family

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