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Eventine said:

What I'm referring to is the US's ability to get its "allies" - more accurately, vassals - involved in any conflict it gets into. We saw this in Iraq and Afghanistan with the "coalition of the willing" and we see it in Ukraine with the sanctions and supplied arms. In the latter case, Europe suffers far more from it than the US does, so the US is essentially using Europeans to fight other Europeans.

There is no question in my mind that, should China fight Taiwan, most of the US's Pacific vassals (Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc.) will get directly involved. By contrast, I'm skeptical that Russia, Iran, or Pakistan will get directly involved on the side of China. The US's ability to command a legion of vassals to do its bidding is one of its greatest strengths, and a reason why a direct attack against Taiwan is not currently feasible.

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SK is paralysed because of NK and the PLA ground force. Japan is a big unknown. Australia will certainly need to be bombed but it is not something China hasn't planned on.

For it's defenses, China will at the minimum have NK guaranteed, Russia at about the same likelyhood as US gets Japan, and most likely not Iran and defintely not Pakistan which is stuck spinning in circles even in peacetime due to terrible government.

So as long as it is a defensive war, the allies China will bring to bear will be overall better quality than the territories America can force into the war. China itself can also mobilize a lot more forces than US can.

In a hypothetical preemptive aggressive war (for example, a military operation against SK or Japan) China would be much more isolated, but there is really 0 reason for China to ever fight an attacking war because they have everything they need inside their own territory. They just need to hold what they have.

It's US that thinks it neede to change the status quo in order to have a chance at winning the cold war.

Biscuits said:

SK is paralysed because of NK and the PLA ground force. Japan is a big unknown. Australia will certainly need to be bombed but it is not something China hasn't planned on.

For it's defenses, China will at the minimum have NK guaranteed, Russia at about the same likelyhood as US gets Japan, and most likely not Iran and defintely not Pakistan which is stuck spinning in circles even in peacetime due to terrible government.

So as long as it is a defensive war, the allies China will bring to bear will be overall better quality than the territories America can force into the war. China itself can also mobilize a lot more forces than US can.

In a hypothetical preemptive aggressive war (for example, a military operation against SK or Japan) China would be much more isolated, but there is really 0 reason for China to ever fight an attacking war because they have everything they need inside their own territory. They just need to hold what they have.

It's US that thinks it neede to change the status quo in order to have a chance at winning the cold war.

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Don't forget India

Overbom said:

Don't forget India

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India with it's 90% Russian equipped military which is facing the himalayas in the China direction?

The only direction India could feasibly hit is Pakistan, hoping that an US attack on China will stop Beijing from interfering. But I don't see this war as one that India will cleanly win, even if China doesn't assist Pakistan.

Besides, once the US distraction runs out (how long can US keep up offensives into Chinese waters until they run out of ships?), India will find itself into a 2 front war. Khalistan is imminent.

Biscuits said:

India with it's 90% Russian equipped military which is facing the himalayas in the China direction?

The only direction India could feasibly hit is Pakistan, hoping that an US attack on China will stop Beijing from interfering. But I don't see this war as one that India will cleanly win, even if China doesn't assist Pakistan.

Besides, once the US distraction runs out (how long can US keep up offensives into Chinese waters until they run out of ships?), India will find itself into a 2 front war. Khalistan is imminent.

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I didn't want to start an argument or discussion, I just pointed it out as you missed India in your analysis of foreign countries that could affect China in a hegemonic clash against Taiwan.

Just India doing some massive military exercises would stretch the CMC to provide resources in that direction. India doesn't need to militarily engage China, just doing exercises and chest-thumbing would be enough for the PLA to divert resources away from the Asia-Pacific front

sheogorath said:

The Washington Post refers to the leak again though this time it indicates that the reported Ukranian losses sit at around 124.000 to 131.000

Then the article turns into a puff piece for Azov

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Its funny that MSM considers any guy flying the national flag or opposing sexualization of childhood (drag queen shows for kids for example) as Nazis.
But they started praising LITERAL nazis 1 year ago as long as it has yellow-blue/black-red flag in the shoulder.

The levels of hypocresy ...
(sorry for the off-topic)

Right_People said:

Its funny that MSM considers any guy flying the national flag or opposing sexualization of childhood (drag queen shows for kids for example) as Nazis.
But they started praising LITERAL nazis 1 year ago as long as it has yellow-blue/black-red flag in the shoulder.

The levels of hypocresy ...
(sorry for the off-topic)

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Should go into this threadBreaking & World News! III NO DISCUSSION!!

The USG conducts its wars with the expectation that they can pack up and leave and pretend it never happened if things go awry eg Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc

Problem is, will the PLA allow them to leave and further more, will they even have a home to go to afterwards?

BoraTas said:

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646250972686045189

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You can be appointed ( notice how I didn’t say elected?) to the prime ministership but you’ll always be a coolie in a white supremacist society.

baykalov said:

Seems that Morawiecki just discovered Tolkien's books and now he is lost in that world, defines himself as an elv fighting Mordor.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646207792519299146

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Poland should receive Lvov but return Prussia and the German lands it was gifted from the soviets; if they want nothing from the Russians they should also return the gifts from the Russians as well.

Fatty said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645953183791841280

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The CPC did their job well, accurately psych profiling the Donald. Honeytraps are a time honoured technique used well by the soviets; one wonders why the anglos couldn’t accomplish the same renown and then one is forced to imagine the calibre of Anglo honeypots…


Sounds like the China hawks or the perennial “Wolverines!” Faction overreached and now the ordinary Australians are discovering that making war on a China that can consume Anglo Australia isn’t too bright a prospect especially when ASPI recommended conscription!!

the western sympathetic Russian Gabuev theorises that when Xi visited Putin, Sino Russian weapons tech development was discussed

As a western chauvinist Gabuev assumes that Chinese military tech is inferior compared to Russia and this is why they were going to purchase S-400s

Overbom said:

I didn't want to start an argument or discussion, I just pointed it out as you missed India in your analysis of foreign countries that could affect China in a hegemonic clash against Taiwan.

Just India doing some massive military exercises would stretch the CMC to provide resources in that direction. India doesn't need to militarily engage China, just doing exercises and chest-thumbing would be enough for the PLA to divert resources away from the Asia-Pacific front

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India won't actively partake, Indian elites have huge ego so doesn't like getting ordered around that much and post Modi era would be a political suicide as super power image is deeply ingrained among cowbelt voters now add in Russian pressure it would mostly limited to logistics and material support if at all

Overbom said:

If that's what Baerbock is going to say in China, the MFA guys are going to be scolded for not handling foreign visits well.

Her visit shouldn't have happened in the first place if all she is going to say is US propaganda. Might as well as talk to her boss, that Blinking guy, directly

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I think the same. Hopefully China has prepared a humiliating treatment for her because otherwise allowing her visit does not make much sense.

eprash said:

India won't actively partake, Indian elites have huge ego so doesn't like getting ordered around that much and post Modi era would be a political suicide as super power image is deeply ingrained among cowbelt voters now add in Russian pressure it would mostly limited to logistics and material support if at all

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India cannot afford to send much resources as long as Pakistan is there, in fact Lisa Curtis released a report with Rand to get the US and her western allies to put pressure on Pakistan to stay out of a China-indian war.

China knows this and is arming Pakistan.