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tamsen_ikard

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Russia is the last European great power. France is borderline a vassal let alone a great power. It is not a full vassal yet so I suppose you can call it better than the rest.

France and Europeans are most certainly not vassals. Vassal would mean they are under US by force. But that is not the case. They were colonial empires in the past and ruled over the whole world. Now that all those colonies are independent, they are afraid to lose their dominance. So, they have resorted to ally together with their own offspring the US, Australia and so on to ensure their dominance over the world.

The basis of the west is ensuring the White-European domination. Because Europeans are subordinates of the US willingly, they are so motivated to be loyal.

Even Japan and South Korea are not vassals. They willingly welcome American domination due to their white-worship, superiority complex against China.

Uh huh. So now you say the Russians have 300k troops but a couple days ago you said they need to a huge mass mobilization because the Ukrainians formed up 40k troops for their spring offensive. So what is it? Do the Russians have troops or are you going to start insisting the 40k Ukrainian space marines will reach Beijing by the end of April.

I think you did NOT pay attention to what I said. Ukraine has 1 million troops mobilized while Russia only mobilized 300K. Ukraine recently also prepared a 40K strong army just for the new offensive, that's in addition to the 1 million they already have. The situation is very bad for Russia at the moment.
 

pmc

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Ie. a forum devoted to talking most things Chinese defence related, including geopolitics and global diplomacy since China is a player on that scale. Russia is currently China's most significant ally and its pretty obvious members here have taken an intenese interest in the Ukraine conflict, as well as Russia's broader geopolitical confrontation with NATO. Afterall, just look at how many members take offence at labeling Russia a junior partner of China, nevermind "pawn or vassal state."

Also, by nonchalant, I did not mean members here didn't consider it newsworthy, a cursory look at threads when the announcement broke would disprove that. (Now stating the obvious, of course its not on the level of Pelosi visiting Taiwan) What I meant by nonchalant is simply the generosity in which members were willing to hype up Russia's standing in Europe despite Finland joining NATO and how it even works in its favor, when I'm sure China wouldn't get some bullish assessments if similar events were to unfold in its periphery.
Are Taiwan and Japan went to Israel to buy there air defense system like Germany and Finland?. as long Germany is the head of Europa Russia has no threat. Russia is doing pre-emptively demographic reshuffling to improve its position. Europeans are just as by standards. they are suffering but cannot enter war that can change the outcome. Germany will ensure that its economic supremacy is maintained over Europe and it remain the indispensable ally of US. all these things make future bleak for countries like Finland regardless which organization they enter.
 

Sleepyjam

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This is laughable response from China. When was the last time China ever enforced a so called sanction? Never ever. Yes, they have stopped buying or selling items to countries in the past. But never against individuals or organizations.

I did argue a day ago how China's response will be weak because it is in their best interest to keep the status quo and focus on the economy. Taiwan and US are so anti-China right now and so very much afraid of the future, that they would probably prefer the war now rather than later.

Its sad to see China behaving this weak but that's their best option now.
Seems you have resorted to blatantly lying now. Take your trolling back to your Reddit hole.
 

solarz

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Ie. a forum devoted to talking most things Chinese defence related, including geopolitics and global diplomacy since China is a player on that scale. Russia is currently China's most significant ally and its pretty obvious members here have taken an intenese interest in the Ukraine conflict, as well as Russia's broader geopolitical confrontation with NATO. Afterall, just look at how many members take offence at labeling Russia a junior partner of China, nevermind "pawn or vassal state."

Also, by nonchalant, I did not mean members here didn't consider it newsworthy, a cursory look at threads when the announcement broke would disprove that. (Now stating the obvious, of course its not on the level of Pelosi visiting Taiwan) What I meant by nonchalant is simply the generosity in which members were willing to hype up Russia's standing in Europe despite Finland joining NATO and how it even works in its favor, when I'm sure China wouldn't get some bullish assessments if similar events were to unfold in its periphery.

That's because most of us recognized that Russia was never going to win by siding with the Europeans. The Ukraine war has placed Russia firmly in China's camp, and that alone is a huge game changer for Russia despite any other negative ramifications.
 

solarz

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I think you did NOT pay attention to what I said. Ukraine has 1 million troops mobilized while Russia only mobilized 300K. Ukraine recently also prepared a 40K strong army just for the new offensive, that's in addition to the 1 million they already have. The situation is very bad for Russia at the moment.

Russia has a 1 to 4 casualty ratio against Ukraine. 300k x 4 = 1.2 million, so Russia currently has slightly more favorable odds, assuming it doesn't do another round of mobilization.
 

Serb

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France and Europeans are most certainly not vassals. Vassal would mean they are under US by force. But that is not the case. They were colonial empires in the past and ruled over the whole world. Now that all those colonies are independent, they are afraid to lose their dominance. So, they have resorted to ally together with their own offspring the US, Australia and so on to ensure their dominance over the world.

The basis of the west is ensuring the White-European domination. Because Europeans are subordinates of the US willingly, they are so motivated to be loyal.

Even Japan and South Korea are not vassals. They willingly welcome American domination due to their white-worship, superiority complex against China.

Huh, them being vassals doesn't require them to become ones by force. It could've been instead by decades-long brainwashing, mass media propaganda, CIA operations, elites influence operations, etc. That could all be magnified thanks to the nation-level Stockholm Syndromes and military occupations in the case of Germany and Japan. Japan even got nuclear bombed which permanently altered their psyche. And you have some clown takes like not understanding the history of the European continent in which people waged wars against one another for thousands of years. The whole Western civilization now was in fact built by power competition and wars between various individual sovereign empires and factions. And you think something switched in their mindset overnight for all of them to start fully serving the US, at the same time, because what, racism against China? Why do they hate Russia even more then? The thing is CIA is keeping them under control. Also, economic coercion.
 
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Rafi

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This is laughable response from China. When was the last time China ever enforced a so called sanction? Never ever. Yes, they have stopped buying or selling items to countries in the past. But never against individuals or organizations.

I did argue a day ago how China's response will be weak because it is in their best interest to keep the status quo and focus on the economy. Taiwan and US are so anti-China right now and so very much afraid of the future, that they would probably prefer the war now rather than later.

Its sad to see China behaving this weak but that's their best option now.

Why you trolling, Chinese Coast Guard, VBSS is a nice little exercise that will become a permanent feature as is the PLAN and PLAAF routine exercises near Taiwan
 

Sleepyjam

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France and Europeans are most certainly not vassals. Vassal would mean they are under US by force. But that is not the case. They were colonial empires in the past and ruled over the whole world. Now that all those colonies are independent, they are afraid to lose their dominance. So, they have resorted to ally together with their own offspring the US, Australia and so on to ensure their dominance over the world.

The basis of the west is ensuring the White-European domination. Because Europeans are subordinates of the US willingly, they are so motivated to be loyal.

Even Japan and South Korea are not vassals. They willingly welcome American domination due to their white-worship, superiority complex against China.



I think you did NOT pay attention to what I said. Ukraine has 1 million troops mobilized while Russia only mobilized 300K. Ukraine recently also prepared a 40K strong army just for the new offensive, that's in addition to the 1 million they already have. The situation is very bad for Russia at the moment.
Learn the definition of vassal state instead of making up your own delusional definition.
 
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