The serious answer, yes it is either within Chinese territory water or EEZ, coast guard has that power."My lord, is that legal?"
The not serious answer, yes because I (China) said so.
The serious answer, yes it is either within Chinese territory water or EEZ, coast guard has that power."My lord, is that legal?"
wow, that is very cold.Not only was there no welcome reception for von der Leyen at the airport, they made her take the subway into town:
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Got to admit, arriving in a plane you built is pretty chad.No, Macron received full treatment as a head of state can get, including the honor guard on the tarmac and motorcade escort.
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Here is the video from CCTV.
The video above confirms that She arrived separately.
To everyone, seriously though, I don't think China is deliberately giving her a cold treatment in terms of protocol. No matter what the Europeans think, diplomatically she is just a bureaucrat at the rank of a minister, she is not head of state or government, at best on the rank of ambassador who doesn't qualify any welcoming ceremony or meeting at the tarmac treatment.
No actually it's quite the opposite - most of France's rhetoric is in line with the US but its actions are not. France (and most of EU) has not pursued the same anti-Chinese policies of the US with few exceptions (like banning Huawei). That's why for example Chinese EV makers are expanding to Europe but not in the US. Chinese tech companies have no hope or future in the US, while Europe remains a viable and crucial market, and it's in China's interests to keep it that way.Yes, he has no choice, many excuses. The result is that the majority of French actions will be in line with US/Western interests against Chinese interests. It doesn't matter if he wanted to or didn't want to. Actions shape the world, not secret desires. So treat him like any other Western leader who comes; take the deals that benefit us and reject everything else. Just another turd but covered in flowers and watches. Don't elevate him because he speaks nicely and and don't castigate him for it either. Just another turd.
Who greeted Macron when he walked off the stairs? Didn't seem like a high level official to me, not exactly the warmest welcome.No, Macron received full treatment as a head of state can get, including the honor guard on the tarmac and motorcade escort.
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Here is the video from CCTV.
The video above confirms that She arrived separately.
To everyone, seriously though, I don't think China is deliberately giving her an cold treatment in terms of protocol. No matter what the Europeans think, diplomatically she is just a bureaucrat at the rank of a minister, she is not head of state or government, at best on the rank of ambassador who doesn't qualify any welcoming ceremony or meeting at the tarmac treatment.
Of course they are not as aggressive as the US but dragging thier feet, if the US insists, they must follow anyway. They have no reason to be as aggressive as America; they are sacrificing their own benefits for someone else's dominance. But so long as their bottom line is spinelessness in the face of American insistence, they are hostile nations nonetheless. Is there anything that Macron or France stands out in compared to the rest of the EU in positive action towards China? As far as I can tell, it is roughly the same with Macron being the soft smooth talker going to Russia and China. Both countries are far too intelligent for his bullshit.No actually it's quite the opposite - most of France's rhetoric is in line with the US but its actions are not. France (and most of EU) has not pursued the same anti-Chinese policies of the US with few exceptions (like banning Huawei).
Huawei ban, EUV ban, that recent shit they did with Lithuania the name of which I cannot recall, etc... It's a dangerous gamble as to what they will do when America tells them they must. Of course it's best for China to take that market, but it is still controlled in hostile territory. And on the other hand, as far as I'm concerned, these people don't deserve China's excellent EV cars.That's why for example Chinese EV makers are expanding to Europe but not in the US. Chinese tech companies have no hope or future in the US, while Europe remains a viable and crucial market, and it's in China's interests to keep it that way.
Most treaties are never set in stone forever. Peoples values and interests will change over time. However, THIS particular problem (i.e. NATO expansion) and even the Minsk agreements were nothing but a lie which the Russians had no choice but to accept at face value at that time. Now that we all know the West is "agreement incapable," no further dialogue is necessary until certain actions are taken first to Russia's approval.Wow, less than a year before breaking that verbal promise. As some Americans like to point out often, should've gotten it in writing (as a binding treaty).
I would be surprised if France (i.e. Airbus) would even allow Boeing to return to the Chinese market. After getting screwed in the Mistral LHD and Australian submarine deals, it would be foolish for France's to not return the favor back to the Americans. After all, the Americans are their competitors. Of course this would depend on whether China would be willing to play this game.Chinese aviation market is like a ocean. big enough to accommodate AIRBUS/COMAC even if Boeing come back. still will be more than enough for three big firms.
Temstar made a reference to a . The point is that Beijing will make it legal which it already is as you pointed out.The serious answer, yes it is either within Chinese territory water or EEZ, coast guard has that power.
The not serious answer, yes because I (China) said so.
No actually it's quite the opposite - most of France's rhetoric is in line with the US but its actions are not. France (and most of EU) has not pursued the same anti-Chinese policies of the US with few exceptions (like banning Huawei). That's why for example Chinese EV makers are expanding to Europe but not in the US. Chinese tech companies have no hope or future in the US, while Europe remains a viable and crucial market, and it's in China's interests to keep it that way.
A lot of people aren't aware that Austria was similarly partitioned to Germany when WW2 ended and the Soviets wanted the same agreement for the reunification of Germany but the Western Allies shat the bed and we got NATO, WarPac and the wall.Austria is a special case, a legal binding nutral country who can not join any military alliance. That was the condition of it regaining independence after WWII.
