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China is simply doing normal affairs within its own borders; or maybe the Indians prefer to be invaded, subjugated and enslaved first before opening dialogue? Seems to be the case with the British, the Portuguese and the Brahmins/Aryans.
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The UK could've had it all, they could've had a Golden Century as China's clearing house for Europe. Instead they chose to become in every aspect, Somalia down to the economy and society.
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Dystopian as f_ck:
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Imagine being a BRICS nation squaring off NATO and having to contend with transgender and geriatric enemies. It'd be like a WH40K Guardsmen encountering Slaaneshi cultists and Greater Daemons.

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Same energy.
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siegecrossbow

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Chevalier said:
Look at the calibre of Western Elites: pizza gate parties, hard drugs, pederasty, homosexual blood transfusion of young healthy males et al and you can begin to understand why they push so hard for LGBT and globohomo policies. They wish to create a world safe for them and their perversions.

By their capricious and insecure behaviour, they feel that they are inferior to the traditional modern families of yesteryear and so seek to destroy it, and when China starts to rise, they adopt a very Indian attitude of fury at seeing a race of people they saw as inferior, surpassing them. There is no appeasing such people in such a state. You can only neutralise their negative actions and ignore them.

Actually, it reminds me of toxic exes i've had who still tried to sabotage me yet didn't want to get back together, only wanting me to suffer ad infinitum. Best thing you can do is ignore them and move on.

Mouthpieces in the Atlanticist west are starting to possibly suggest that the current US geostrategy is counterproductive to the national interest?
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For america to give up primacy will be devastating to the core identity of WASP america or the power centres of america. The British never truly lots hegemony because they still have influence over the US on cultural and linguistic grounds. The Anglos have nothing when it comes to China, nor Russia, perhaps India but it is the weakest of the BRICS.
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LMAO no. If you are in an Amber Heard situation and you have the resources to pull off a Johnny Depp why the heck would you want to just walk away?
 
duskseeker

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Chevalier said:
China is simply doing normal affairs within its own borders; or maybe the Indians prefer to be invaded, subjugated and enslaved first before opening dialogue? Seems to be the case with the British, the Portuguese and the Brahmins/Aryans.

The UK could've had it all, they could've had a Golden Century as China's clearing house for Europe. Instead they chose to become in every aspect, Somalia down to the economy and society.


Imagine being a BRICS nation squaring off NATO and having to contend with transgender and geriatric enemies. It'd be like a WH40K Guardsmen encountering Slaaneshi cultists and Greater Daemons.

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warhammer 40k nerd spotted. I like necrons
 
MarKoz81

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baykalov said:
After decades of the infamous Cold War, General Secretary of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev agreed with the US and NATO to allow East and West Germany to reunite in 1990. In addition, he agreed to dissolve the Warsaw Pact military alliance and withdraw all Soviet military units from Eastern Europe. In return, General Secretary Gorbachev was promised by US Secretary of State James Baker that NATO would not move “one inch Eastward”. Gorbachev kept his word, dissolved the Warsaw Pact, and withdrew all Soviet military units from Eastern Europe. Shortly thereafter, the USSR itself lost its economic war to the West in 1991 when the US led the charge to crash crude oil prices. The 15 Soviet Socialist Republics dissolved into 15 different nations, with the Russian SSR being the successor state of the USSR.

From 1992 to 1999, all was quiet as the 15 former Republics of the defunct Soviet Union were in shambles economically, socially, and militarily. The new Russian Federation moved away from being a Communist state to a quasi Socialist/Capitalist one.

NATO expansion timeline and broken commitments by the US and NATO:
- 1999 Czechia, Hungary and Poland (former Warsaw Pact nations)
- 2004 Bulgaria and Romania (former Warsaw Pact nations), Estonia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Slovakia (3 nations on Russian border)
- 2008 President George W Bush announced that Georgia and Ukraine would be allowed to join NATO. Russian President Vladimir Putin states that this is unacceptable. Russia enters military conflict in Georgia after skirmishes.
- 2009 Albania and Croatia
- 2014 US sponsors a coup in Ukraine. Russia seizes the Crimea.
- 2017 Montenegro
- 2020 North Macedonia
- 2022 Russia invades Ukraine
- 2023 Finland
- TBD Sweden

The Warsaw Pact was gone. The Soviet Union was gone. Communism was gone. Yet from 1999 to 2020, NATO continued to ask Vladimir Putin why he was so concerned with his nation being encircled by a hostile military alliance. The West’s newest narrative in 2023 is, because Russia invaded Ukraine, it “caused” Finland and Sweden to join NATO.

Question which begs to be answered: What then “caused” (14) nations to join NATO from 1999 to 2020? :rolleyes:

The USSR kept its word, the US and NATO did not. No nation in the West can ever be trusted. They have absolutely zero integrity.

This entire sequence of events was all by design to move NATO right up to Russia’s border, and eventually cause the collapse of the Russian state. Then a fractured Russia could easily be raided by the bandits of the West for its vast natural resources.
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Oh dear... this again?


1. Accession to NATO of Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, Romania

The right of those nations to join NATO was settled on 21 November of 1990.

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Meeting of the Heads of State or Government of the participating States of the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe (CSCE):
Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, Czech and Slovak Federal Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Holy See, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy -European Community, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, United Kingdom, United States of America and Yugoslavia

Paris, 19 - 21 November 1990

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Security

Friendly relations among us will benefit from the consolidation of democracy and improved security. We welcome the signature of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe by twenty-two participating States, which will lead to lower levels of armed forces. We endorse the adoption of a substantial new set of Confidence- and Security-building Measures which will lead to increased transparency and confidence among all participating States. These are important steps towards enhanced stability and security in Europe. The unprecedented reduction in armed forces resulting from the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, together with new approaches to security and co operation within the CSCE process, will lead to a new perception of security in Europe and a new dimension in our relations. In this context we fully recognize the freedom of States to choose their own security arrangements.

The actual document carries Mikhail Gorbachev's signature is under "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" thus guaranteeing the right of Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania to accede to NATO without seeking USSR's or Russia's approval.

They chose to do so because they were occupied by the Soviet Union following WW2 with communist governments imposed through political terror backed by Soviet occupying forces. That occupation was followed by internal repression and forcible russification of countries which - with the exception of Bulgaria - are traditionally part of the Latin civilization. Any attempt of those countries to restructure their internal political systems was violently repressed e.g. in Hungary in 1956, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, in Poland in 1956, 1970 and 1980.

Rejection of Soviet rule, withdrawal from COMECON and Warsaw Pact and joining the EU and NATO was approved by majorities of over 75% in each of the countries.


2. Dissolution of the Warsaw Pact.

The Warsaw Pact was not dissolved by Gorbachev and could not be dissolved as such as it was nominally a collective organization of sovereign states. With the Soviet Union losing influence in its former satellite states following political revolutions in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Romania. Only in Bulgaria the transition occurred peacefully with the Communist Party of Bulgaria changing its name to Socialist Party of Bulgaria and winning the first free election in 1990. East Germany was automatically withdrawn from Warsaw Pact under the Reunification Treaty (Two Plus Four).

The Warsaw Pact was dissolved in February of 1991 when Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Romania declared their intentions to unilaterally withdraw from the Pact following the Paris agreement in November of 1990 cited above. Bulgaria assented to the dissolution and the Soviet Union was left as the sole member of an organisation that was expelled from Warsaw. It was therefore not the USSR dissolving the Warsaw Pact but the occupied Soviet satellites withdrawing.



3. Accession to NATO of Albania and Yugoslavia.

Albania and Yugoslavia were neither members of the Warsaw Pact nor formally allied to the Soviet Union. It was a separate socialist country and a member of the Non-Aligned Movement. Their right to join the NATO was a sovereign decision of a sovereign country. Yugoslavia - an in consequence constituent states of the federal republic - was signatory to the Paris charter cited above.

This settles the right of Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, (North) Macedonia and Slovenia to join NATO without any legal obligation to seek permission from the Soviet Union or Russia.

In particular the geographical position of Yugoslavia which is located on the Adriatic shore, next to Italy and Austria precludes any reasonable claim by Russia of "endangering its security" considering that it is separated from Russia by sovereign countries which chose to distance itself from Russia.

Russia's claim is based on their relationship with Serbia which sought Russia's support after it lost control of the Federal Republic following Josip Tito's death and the rejection of Serbian nationalist policy within multi-ethnic Yugoslavia led by Milosevic which led to its violent dissolution.



4. Accession to NATO of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

This is the only controversial act which however is legal on the basis of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia being sovereign states created in 1918-1920 period and subsequently formally recognized by the Soviet government which in 1939 were invaded, put under occupation and later forcibly annexed into the USSR and had their population resettled and their land colonised by Soviet invaders.

Their separation from USSR was legitimate and legal under the rules instituted by Gorbachev's reforms in 1991, on the secession from the USSR which precludes any claim by Russia on their sovereign security arrangements.



5. Allowing the accession to NATO of Georgia and Ukraine.

It never happened. It is a Russian lie.

In 2008 during the Bucharest summit of NATO the departing US president George W Bush has submitted a proposal to grant Ukraine and Georgia a joint Membership Action Plan which would move the countries from cooperation under Partnership for Peace to formal negotiations on membership at an unspecified date.

The proposal was not accepted by NATO during the summit. Instead a follow-up negotiation on its potential resolution after the US election was agreed but that negotiation never came into effect due to the economic crisis and later the change of government in both countries.

It was not resumed until Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022.



6. Paranoid delusions and obsessive attention-seeking are a symptom of a mental disorder.

There is no known healthy pattern of behaviour which involves any of those separately, but combined they indicate a very serious condition.
 
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Restraint becomes kind of a weakness when it's so beneficial for to be restrained. Then it becomes a handcuff that prevents you from taking action against provocation because you keep thinking, not yet, I need to hold on until I am stronger and my position is more favorable. China's biggest advantage is that it is so intelligent, restrained and thinks long term. But it is also its biggest weakness because everyone thinks they are too afraid to take costly actions.

If China was as unhinged as US for example, they would have banned all rare earth export to any country that bans Chip exports. That would have crippled Chip industry of US and Taiwan. It would have been such a huge action that whole world would have taken notice. It also would have deterred US to pursue more Chip sanctions.

What has China banned in response to all the Huawei bans in Europe and Australia? Did they ban Apple and German cars for example? For being a potential spy tool?

They have been extremely restrained because they cannot take these actions without huge costs to its own economy. and there is a fundamental difference between what US and the west wants and what China wants.

China's goal is to get richer and stronger, not to bring US down. But for US, they are already rich, they are already on top. They just want to bring China down. So, they can take actions that is costly for their economy, hoping that it will cost China more and maybe cause a collapse.

This is the fundamental difference between China and the USSR. China wants its own rise, USSR wanted to bring US down.

This is all very good and intelligent from China. But it is also a weakness in the Taiwan scenario. Because Taiwan and US can keep on Salami slicing all they want and China cannot take strong action without causing problems to their long term goal.



There is a difference between what is called a success for DPP vs what is a success for China. The Taiwan independence battle is battle of recognition. Taiwan is already de-facto separate from the mainland. But what Taiwan independence crowd really hated was that the west didn't interact with Taiwan on a political level. They wanted recognition from US and the west as a country.

Now they are kind of getting it. Not overtly, but bit by bit. slowly. Now politicians and ministers from western countries are visiting Taiwan as if it is a country. These ministers and official meet Tsai as if She is a president of a country. That is the recognition they seek.

When Tsai gets to visit the US or talk to US leaders, that's a win for them. When Lithuania opens a "Taiwan Representative Office", that'a huge win for them. Cause what is the difference between a "Taiwan representative office" vs a "taiwan embassy"? Very little.

Slowly but surely Taiwan is moving towards de-facto recognition of Taiwan Independence. They will not declare independence but they dont need to if presidents and leaders from US and the west openly visits Taiwan, Taiwan gets to open these representative offices and gets to openly participate in sports as "Taiwan".

They want to become independent without declaring independence. And currently they are succeeding towards moving to that goal step by step.

But China's goal is much harder. They have to actually takeover Taiwan physically. That's a much harder goal than the simple recognition game. So, China hasn't made any progress in their goal while Taiwan has been making a lot of progress in their goal.
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Chevalier

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LMAO no. If you are in an Amber Heard situation and you have the resources to pull off a Johnny Depp why the heck would you want to just walk away?
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True, the toxic ex is trying to stop your kids from getting into good schools and harassing your family members throughout town, like the bunny boiler that she is.

China is ghosting the United States​

Beijing has effectively frozen high level bilateral diplomatic contact in the wake of the Chinese spy balloon incident in February.
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Swipe left for anglo white supremacism. Swipe right for hot Russian multipolarity.
 
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Pentagon fake news about Chinese fast breeder reactors.​

The US Department of Defense and numerous private commentators allege that Russian-Chinese cooperation on fast breeder reactors will provide plutonium for large numbers of Chinese nuclear weapons. Assistant Secretary of Defense John Plumb told Congressional hearings on March 8:
“It’s very troubling to see Russia and China cooperating on this. They may have talking points around it, but there’s no getting around the fact that breeder reactors are plutonium, and plutonium is for weapons. So I think the [Defense] Department is concerned. And of course, it matches our concerns about China’s increased expansion of its nuclear forces as well, because you need more plutonium for more weapons.”
The Pentagon knows better than this. Anyone conversant with fast breeder reactor technology is aware that the type of plutonium that can be produced in such reactors is much less suitable for nuclear weapons than the plutonium produced in other reactor types, whose design and construction China has long mastered.
It is therefore nonsensical to charge that the main goal of the Chinese fast breeder program is weapons-related. Rather, the motivation for the program is consistent with that of other nations that have pursued fast breeder reactor designs, including greater efficiency in the utilization of nuclear fuel, reduction in the amount and toxicity of nuclear waste and greater independence from outside fuel supplies.

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The pentagon has launched a disinformation campaign against China civilian nuclear program.
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