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Bellum_Romanum said:

Just not strong enough until bombs and troops starts pouring into Taiwan with American ships become a smoldering wreckage sinking into the South China Sea.

I agree with the premise of your argument as much as I loathed it but I do see the logic of what you have said regarding China's goal and constraints with respect to China's aims and objectives vis-a-vis vis Taiwan which is to prolong or hold off on the armed reunification for as long as possible while building up its huge military to create not only deterrence against America and its allies but also to compel and create an impossible and inevitable scenario for the Taiwanese separatists that Independence is a lost cause.

America's and Europe's goal are to keep on needling China's red line until all the red lines all but vanished and goad China in untenable position where the only viable option is for China to activate armed reunification no different to the Russian decision to invade Ukraine circa 2022. All fine and dandy since the American and western prognostication is that the outcome of such a war with China will favor the west judging from the way and perceived Russian ineptitude and incompetence in their war against Ukraine without direct U.S. involvement, a war with China over Taiwan that guarantees US allied direct participation gives the impression that China despite it's fast pace military development, procurement, and the manpower it possess is nothing but a paper tiger with anemic or next to nothing experience compared to the supposed decades and institutional advantages US military possess.

Such arrogant assumptions and gross underestimation of China's military not to mention it's MORALE AND WILL TO PREVENT THE REPEAT OF 100 YEARS OF HUMILIATION along with all of civilization struggle against U.S. led alliance and Taiwan are factors that no American idiots have taken to fully understand or appreciate. The American way of war will have to be upended and must be revised if it stupidly assumes that a war over Taiwan is going to be limited to within China's periphery.

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He's right that it's in the Chinese best interests to wait as much as possible for the armed reunification with Taiwan, like until 2050, as China is today objectively growing way more than the Collective West in every way imaginable, tech, economy, military, diplomacy, you name it.

However, I personally think that he is wrong in his assessment that China could actually successfully hold for that long with all those kinds of provocations happening constantly. I mean just out of domestic reactions to those provocations, from inside China, the government would need to do something in return to appease the increasingly confident population of their country for legitimacy.

And as US + vassals provocations rise, in the future, the people inside China would also demand sharper reactions from the government too as the previous reactions failed to deter. It will be like a cycle from which you can't break out. Hence, I see no way for that conflict to be successfully avoided until 2050. I think the US is preparing for 2027 judging by their rhetoric and they will do everything in their power for that to happen. The chances of them defending Taiwan or stopping China's rise in 2050 are 0%, but today, they are still something. They think that if they successfully defeat China and get a favorable outcome from the Taiwan scenario, China's otherworldly rise would stop.

Anyway back to @tamsen, I think he also underestimated the Chinese chances of success, even right now, that's why he thinks that China could successfully hold on until that point. I think it's way more in Chinese favor to win even now, not to mention in 2027. I'm talking about a 70-90% potential win rate in 2027 in my opinion.

I base that assumption on the fact that NATO failed to militarily outproduce Russia despite them having 30 times smaller nominal GDP and the nominal GDP the size of Italy. I see no possible scenario in which they could outproduce China, the factory of the world. Not to mention that it is a stretch to assume that the whole of NATO would support the US. And that is the most important thing as the US weapons stock would run out in a few weeks. The wars today are still won by industrial might, not to mention Chinese overall morale which would be seen as defending its 23rd province 100km from their shores, against US morale of going against another superpower 10000km from its shores in the 21st century.

Peter Thiel who is also a anti-china proponent seems to be a immoral person like his friend Trump in his personal life too.

baykalov said:

Question which begs to be answered: What then “caused” (14) nations to join NATO from 1999 to 2020?

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I answer this question why my home country Bulgaria became a member of NATO. I quote Bulgarian politicians who were negotiating Bulgaria's accession to the EU at the time: we were told clearly by Brussels that Bulgaria would only be accepted as a member of the EU if it first became a member of NATO. This is an unofficial precondition: without NATO there is no EU. Bulgaria became a NATO member in 2004 and was admitted to the EU in 2007. With similar blackmail and pressure, NATO expanded in Eastern Europe towards Russia's borders.

I assume that the situation is similar now with North Macedonia, which became a NATO member in 2020 and can now be accepted into the EU.

baykalov said:

I answer this question why my home country Bulgaria became a member of NATO. I quote Bulgarian politicians who were negotiating Bulgaria's accession to the EU at the time: we were told clearly by Brussels that Bulgaria would only be accepted as a member of the EU if it first became a member of NATO. This is an unofficial precondition: without NATO there is no EU. Bulgaria became a NATO member in 2004 and was admitted to the EU in 2007. With similar blackmail and pressure, NATO expanded in Eastern Europe towards Russia's borders.

I assume that the situation is similar now with North Macedonia, which became a NATO member in 2020 and can now be accepted into the EU.

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The same is true for Montenegro. Polls showed that way more people were against it, at that time, but the dictator president (who ruled for 30+ years, just yesterday lost in the elections) directly led the country into NATO without a referendum and without any kind of public opinion. As for why he did that, he is just like a narco president of the past century in South America, they blackmailed him for his criminal activities probably. He also order to used to arrest, beat down, and destroy the opposition. In the beginning, he was a pro-Serb, but later CIA acquired him and he just changed his political course overnight and turned to be genocidal against Serbs ever since then. I think they also promised something along the lines of faster joining the EU which is a fairy tale. I think they also did a similar thing in North Macedonia, I mean CIA and the West, promises of EU + covert operations, media campaigns, coups, etc. Nothing of that was legitimate.

tamsen_ikard said:

Well based on China's population they should have 3-4 times US total GDP. Why fight with 12.5K GDP per capita when they can get to 50K GDP per capita in 30 years. When they get so big, do you think US and EU will even dream about sanctioning China? By then China will be economic center of the world.

Where will China's military be in 30 years? Could they have 20+ Carriers? 5000+ stealth fighters? Sure they can with their level of Population and GDP at that time.

So, why fight now when you are still kinda weak when you can be so much stronger.

So, this is the biggest reason for China's current restraint. They get so much more benefits by keeping their head down and focusing on development.





I was talking about this Balakot strike. Ofcourse it was embarrassing for India in the end but that didn't matter. By taking action India was able to show that it is unhinged and aggressive enough to strike. It escalated so much that Pakistan was then forced to stop its covert strike against the Indian Army in Kashmir. Now there is no more strikes by Pakistani proxies against India. Instead India is on the offensive in Kashmir by changing into a dictatorship and changed laws to move Hindus into kashmir.



Taiwan is even getting that when Biden talks about defending Taiwan and the US think tank promotes Clarity. Republicans in fact openly want Taiwan Independence. If an aggressive GOP president wins, you bet they might allow Taiwan Representative Office. Congress is so anti-China and Pro-Taiwan, they want to donate weapons to Taiwan instead of just Taiwan buying it. Very soon, GOP might even openly allow Taiwan to go for Nuclear Weapons. Slowly but surely Status quo is changing against China and all they are doing is military exercises. Just not strong enough

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But they didn't. They're trying to get all that, but haven't gotten it, and it's not because they're holding back but because they're afraid of the consequences.

daifo said:

Peter Thiel who is also a anti-china proponent seems to be a immoral person like his friend Trump in his personal life too.

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Look at the calibre of Western Elites: pizza gate parties, hard drugs, pederasty, homosexual blood transfusion of young healthy males et al and you can begin to understand why they push so hard for LGBT and globohomo policies. They wish to create a world safe for them and their perversions.

By their capricious and insecure behaviour, they feel that they are inferior to the traditional modern families of yesteryear and so seek to destroy it, and when China starts to rise, they adopt a very Indian attitude of fury at seeing a race of people they saw as inferior, surpassing them. There is no appeasing such people in such a state. You can only neutralise their negative actions and ignore them.

Actually, it reminds me of toxic exes i've had who still tried to sabotage me yet didn't want to get back together, only wanting me to suffer ad infinitum. Best thing you can do is ignore them and move on.

Mouthpieces in the Atlanticist west are starting to possibly suggest that the current US geostrategy is counterproductive to the national interest?

For america to give up primacy will be devastating to the core identity of WASP america or the power centres of america. The British never truly lots hegemony because they still have influence over the US on cultural and linguistic grounds. The Anglos have nothing when it comes to China, nor Russia, perhaps India but it is the weakest of the BRICS.

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Temstar said:

There's actually an online novel like that, except the ship that traveled back in time was a 094 SSBN.
At the end of the story after realizing that the change in timeline they've caused will eventually result in Empire of Japan successfully conquering all of China the captain suggested to the political officer that they further change history by using all 12 JL-2 in their possession. The political officer objects saying the order to use nuclear weapon can only be issued by the CPC Central Committee to which the captain replies:

"Comrade commissar, the Central Committee exists in this age too. Shell the two of us make a trip to Jinggangshan then?"

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Can I get the link for that? Asking for a friend.

coolgod said:

To be fair Macron wasn't given a really warm welcome either.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643589115865341953

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France is too busy manufacturing a free PR win for their domestic audiences. Or maybe Macron was just surprised and overjoyed he didn't have to kowtow first.
If the French think that's "warm", I shudder to think of how must they normally be treated by their US masters. Look at how excited Macron is to shake hands with Xi, he even has the "one leg up" pose in the picture.


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supercat said:

It's called paying lip service. It's not important. What China actually does is far more important.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643489014572519424

While not many schools and hospitals were built in the occupied countries with the trillions of dollars, the MIC and private contractors benefited tremondeously nevertheless. It's indeed mission accomplished.

Saudi Arabia is done pleasing the US.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643306551849934849

Here is why.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643699332418359297

It's good to see that not every American is a China-hating warmonger.

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Lol don’t be so naive. These people aren’t warmongering because China makes them money. If it were Iran they would say to use nukes. This is why I laugh whenever people say China doesn’t have soft power. China has an abundance of the most powerful form of soft power in the world: money.