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Hadoren

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9dashline said:
Better yet, if the US really pushes the issue of punishing Chinese airliners, China and Russia should join forces in forbidding any US carriers from flying overland...

And any flights coming from or bound to five eyes and vassals, Japan, Korea, Phillipines
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China could retaliate for Japanese semiconductor sanctions by banning Japanese transits through Chinese airspace. The amount of transits banned should depend on the severity of Japanese sanctions.

This really devastates Japanese travel to Europe. It also adds several hours to Thailand flights.

I did some research on this. Without Russian or Chinese airspace, you need ~22 hours to travel to Paris? The best route crosses the Pacific, with a USA transit?

Japanese tourists should also be banned from visiting Hong Kong and Macau (but not the mainland, where many do business on tourist visas). Again, the ban - or visit quota - should depend on the severity of Japanese semiconductor sanctions.

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Also ban overland flights of all Boeing aircraft
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This would be really devastating if done together with a Russian - and possible Iranian - ban on overland flights by Boeing aircraft. Unfortunately the USA would then pressure Airbus to stop selling planes to China as retaliation. The C919 would also be sanctioned.
 
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9dashline

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KYli said:
Great fire wall of the US.
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This is not about porn, this is a foot in the door to later use this same technology for every sort of draconian censorship imaginable... US is prepping these controls in place for when the dollar goes to zero, like Alex Jones said, its an Info War for a Prison Planet, America is setting the tools in place to lock down and Deagel its own domestic popullation
 
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Germany considering China export restrictions, economy minister tells FAZ​

BERLIN, March 21 (Reuters) - Germany is considering export restrictions to China similar to those already in place in the United States, Economy Minister Robert Habeck told the Frankfurter Allegemeine Zeitung newspaper.

"We have to prevent losing our technology leadership because we don't look closely," he told the Wednesday edition of the paper, adding: "Export controls shouldn't exist everywhere, but in certain critical sectors, we should become stricter."

While it wouldn't be possible to simply remove components made by Chinese company Huawei from Germany's 5G network, in future, "we should do without it," he said.
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Good guy Germany, saving China the trouble of phasing German imports out :)
 
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Overbom

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solarz said:
No matter how many times you repeat that fantasy, it's not going to be true. Russia is single handedly holding back the NATO war machine right now, and that alone makes it a valuable security partner for China.
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You don't even read. All I said is about economics. Did I mention NATO anywhere in the post? Russia can fight the whole Galactic Empire and it still wouldnt matter. On economics Russia will become China's junior partner. And as a result its diplomatic influence will diminish.

You can hype up Russia all you want, but its clear as day that Russia will depend on China from now on.
 
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pmc said:
Canada does not have much infrastructure to redirect its exports for competitive prices . The kind of population Canada attracting to its country it will be unable to develop into independent scientific base. disposable income of Canadians will become lower due to high cost of living, and the brightest will prefer to work in US or US firms the dominance of US will further increase. There is deep integration of US-Canada in travels. Canada simply lucky that it has talented neighbor like US. if there was any other big country to south of Canada it will have very different living standard.
Russia has export infrastructure in 4 directions. it just need to increase the capacities for flexibility of taking market rates. Russia is high disposable income and much larger younger demographics that can do indepth full cycle R&D and not even sell a thing. thats why Russia imports have much less value than Canada. Russia do business in Africa it has to create Wagner. you cannot trust competence of only locals when you are in conflict. The direction of ever increasing flights is towards greater Mideast and it is hot place climate wise so need to be reasonable good health to transition weather extremes.
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can China transition to high disposable income country when it faces sanction and conflict with united West and all the countries influenced by them? and still develop military that have global foot print. Range, reliability with operational tempo of products, quality of training, high wages all come into play when you are in conflict zone or out of area operation extended period of time.
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TFW the crude oil we frack gets shipped South to be refined and then sold back to us. TFW the fresh water in our lakes is being bottled up and sold to us. TFW our closest ally declares a trade war against us.

Yes, I am pretty salty. How can you tell?
 
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Biscuits

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Sardaukar20 said:
It's not that China wants to fight SK at sea or not. I just think that the US will command SK to use it's navy to block PLAN ships from exiting the Bohai Sea to link up with the other PLAN forces in the ECS and SCS. The ROKN have subs, Aegis destroyers, and a minelayer for such a task. On top of that, the US might also command the ROKN to bombard the Chinese coast. The ROKN with land attack missiles could strike major Chinese cities like Qingdao, Liaoning, or Tianjin. Is it an extremely dangerous operation for the ROKN? Yes. But the US sees them as an expendable chess piece to use against China. Should we expect SK to grow a spine an disobey it's US master? I don't think we can trust SK to do that.

I expect the US plans to use the Japanese and South Korean navies as cannon fodder to bleed the Chinese first. The US Navy should be planning to fight from behind until the South Koreans and the Japanese have exhausted their forces. That's how the US historically fights mighty opponents. From behind willing allies.

From listening to US defense talks. I suspect that the US plans to use the Japanese navy as its expendable ASW and air defence fleet. While the South Korean navy is the expendable, all-round attack fleet. An in-depth look at their respective navies does indicate such a direction.

Better for China to budget resources and have a warplan to deal with SK as an enemy. At land, air, and sea. SK is already rapidly becoming a hostile state, so it should be treated as one.
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You do know where the bohai sea is? It's surrounded by China. If you approach the gap, you'll be shot at from both the NK and China directions, by land based missiles, not even counting the northern fleet and air assets which beat ROKN in both quality and quantity.

Bohai sea is not a place even 5 US carrier groups at once would survive if they sail straight in.

And how stupid is it for SK to commit an attack against well defended Chinese core territory with a couple of ballistic missiles when China has tens of thousand guns aimed at their population centers? SK attack on civilians in Liaoning sounds like a way to create a tragedy for SK on the scale that anything imperial Japan did to them would be forgotten in comparison.

SK could indeed participate in an attack on China, but they would still have to do it in a way that has a brain. That means exfiltrating navy from the 1st island chain where China has total control immediately. Such as going to Guam or even further out, linking up with US forces there. Launching SLBM at China is really dangerous because the launches could be conflated for Ohio class launches, but ROKN would be able to add their cruise missiles to America's.

Even then, there's the real question of how SK homeland will survive once the inevitable counteroffensive comes. The ROKN could run away and survive, but giving up the peninsula for the ROKN doesn't seem a good deal either for US or for the SK regime.
 
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