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Abominable

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Helius said:
Because it has nothing to do with the Chinese military. It's a civilian balloon.

It's like you who work at accounts having to answer a court summons because Emily from legal filed her documents to the wrong court.
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Governments can still be held to account for their civilians. If an American civilian plane flew into China, do you think the Chinese government would be calling the owner of the company? No, you take it up with the government that is accountable for the people responsible.

How would the Chinese even know what the phone call was about?
 
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Hadoren

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Strangelove said:
Because the SEEseePee wants to spy on australian WW1, WW2 and 'Nam era weapons...

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Five of the memorial's 11 Hikvision cameras are set to be removed by the end of the month, while the remainder will be stripped from the institution next year.
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Quite an accomplishment for Hikvision to still get its products used in government institutions of the second most anti-China, racist country in the world.

Congrats on your success Hikvision, and may the good work continue.
 
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kickars

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Sure government can be held account for civilian’s problem. But in this case the American government called wrong person! As this ballon isn’t a military craft, the American government shouldn’t have called the Chinese defence minister. From Chinese defence minister’s point of view, why should he pick up the phone when the matter doesn’t belong to his department. Next time before make any phone calls, make sure calling the right person…
 
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"Chinese officials rejected a request from the U.S. defense secretary to speak with his counterpart after an American fighter jet shot down a Chinese spy balloon.

The Pentagon said on Tuesday that China had rejected a request from Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III to speak with his Chinese counterpart on Saturday soon after an American fighter jet shot down a Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina.
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That statement by the Pentagon immediately raises a question. Why hadn't the U.S. defense secretary called the Chinese defense minister before shooting down the Chinese weather ballon?

The U.S. apparently detected the balloon on January 29 when it was over the Aleutian Islands. Austin could have called his Chinese counterpart anytime in the seven days between that detection and the time the decision was taken to shot it down"
 
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tokenanalyst

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Helius

Helius

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Abominable said:
Governments can still be held to account for their civilians. If an American civilian plane flew into China, do you think the Chinese government would be calling the owner of the company? No, you take it up with the government that is accountable for the people responsible.

How would the Chinese even know what the phone call was about?
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The US SecDef doesn't just 'cold call' the Chinese Defence Minister. There would've presumably been preliminary communiques between the two sides at the departmental level on the nature of the phone call before leadership at the Chinese MoD then decides whether to accept the American request for a ministerial call.

All that is to say China most certainly already knew what the phone call was about. If it's a cross-border civilian matter, which this is, it ought to be civilian government institutions that deal with said matter i.e. between the US State Department and China MFA, not Lloyd Austin telling Wei Fenghe to pick up the phone and be like: "Dude, what's with the balloon?"
 
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