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emblem21

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Mischa said:
It's still too early to say if the Philippines have chosen to stand against China. Waving between China and the US is typical for Southeast Asian countries. They always try to maximize the benefits for themselves. So it's not surprising to see that sometimes they cross the line. The more important thing is, how much they have gone beyond the line and whether they turn back to balance quickly.
The Scarborough Shoal/Huangyan Island reclamation project had everything prepared in 2014. The only reason why it was not carried out, is that China doesn't want to ruin its relationship with the Philippines completely for the next decades. If the situation in the future goes to a very bad end, we will see this construction.
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I would find it difficult to believe that China doesn’t have something up their sleeves in the event the Philippines ends up being used as US base in the near future. Given the close proximity, it would be stretched to say that China could easily wipe out those bases with hypersonic missiles they have whilst beefing up its arsenal in the mean time while the world is focused on Ukraine right. It’s not like China is absolutely hedging on the Philippines turn over to chinas side, rather just buying time for China to arm up. Does China have to telegraph its moves for the whole world to see like Russia seems to be doing in some ways. It’s true that the USA wants a fight in two years with China but by then, not only can anything happen, Chinas arsenal would have been well adjusted to meet the occasion and then some. It is a big deal that they Philippines is siding with the USA like this but then again, it’s not like those bases have been dismantled so really all that is needed is more DFs, more contingency weapons aimed at the Philippines should things go south (and so the Philippines can suffer if they really think they pull the same not engaged in conflict crap that the EU has going on with Russia) and more decoupling of China from the US to ensure that the USA cannot have its cake and eat it.
One more thing to note, is will the USA be able to focus its full force against China in the pacific while having leaving the Atlantic open to Russia given that Russia has threatened the USA with destroyers carrying nukes in the region (and the Poseidon lurking around there too). If there is one thing I would be happy to see, is China finally putting those missiles to used in an opportune time and finally sinking the US carriers along with all those bases the USA has located around China, inflicting maximum casualties to the USA and making the world see that China isn’t going to simply grin and take it in the near future. As you can see, I have a very low level of empathy for US troops and should they all be blown to pieces in a mass, that itself means that well, they brought it upon themselves for allowing themselves to be stationed so close to China anyway just like how all those foreign troops in Ukraine right now are not so special when faced with Russian munitions. In fact the more de@d western troops there the closer to world peace we will be, I don’t think anyone can argue with that
 
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Helius

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Bellum_Romanum said:
Man, that's just sad to see tbh.

Has there been any confrontations like this between the Uyghur Chinese separatist movement and the PRC Chinese patriots in Australia since there's a significant support for the terrorist movement in that neck of the wood
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Well you got HKers brawling with Mainlanders at the embassy gate in Manchester, so there's that.
 
Helius

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Has China tried, ever?
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PH is still fighting a Maoist insurgency that had been sponsored by China until the 70s.

In an interview Lee Kuan Yew gave as he recalled Deng Xiaoping's visit to Singapore in the same time period, Deng asked Lee how China and S'pore could be 'friends', Lee replied: "Lay off supporting these communist movements in SEA". Deng then went: "As you wish", and that was that.

When Duterte didn't have enough guns to fight the NPA and the US blocked the sale, it was China who provided the Filipino govnt thousands of rifles as a gesture of goodwill -

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FairAndUnbiased

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Stryker said:
I don't understand why China doesn't start modernising North Korean military. The US is literally setting the stage for an eventual inevitable confrontation, so why hold back? They are sanctioning and banning Chinese companies anyway. Why tf should China not do anything in her defense? I say arm NK with modern naval ships, aircrafts, drones, missiles and other fun stuff. Need to start playing this like a zero sum game soon coz frankly despite my admiration and respect for the CPC & President Xi, I don't believe in the stupid ideology of "Shared future for humanity". China has worked very hard to be where she is, her wealth, technology and prosperity first and foremost belong to the Chinese people themselves, not less deserving third world shitholes like Phillipines, Indonesia, India, Malaysia, Ungrateful African & Latin American countries etc. Neither is it on sale to be robbed again by the Europeans/Anglos or the poodle Japanese. Rejuvenation and shared future for the Chinese nation is more like it. Divert the outward investments going into these third world countries to the PLA & the Chinese MIC.
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Investing in 3rd world countries isn't exactly charity. It is getting rid of paper USD in exchange for something more useful (resources, markets for Chinese products and maybe some goodwill) than treasury IOU.

Modernizing NK is indeed a wise choice though.

About 100 J-10Cs, a few dozen HQ-22s and a few thousand ATGMs and drones would go far to secure NK.
 
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Biscuits

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Helius said:
PH is still fighting a Maoist insurgency that had been sponsored by China until the 70s.

In an interview Lee Kuan Yew gave as he recalled Deng Xiaoping's visit to Singapore in the same time period, Deng asked Lee how China and S'pore could be 'friends', Lee replied: "Lay off supporting these communist movements in SEA". Deng then went: "As you wish", and that was that.

When Duterte didn't have enough guns to fight the NPA and the US blocked the sale, it was China who provided the Filipino govnt thousands of rifles as a gesture of goodwill -

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I'm pretty sure they gave those guns to help Philippines fight the war on drugs, because drug lords are bad. It had nothing to do with communist insurgencies.

Of course, Philippines could have used some of the guns to fight communists, but given that the more pressing conflict is with the drug lords, China would assume that they would primarily use the guns there.

China needs to keep monitoring the situation. If the current Philippines government intend to stand on the right side of history once the chips are down, they should be pardoned for collaboration with the Americans, as they have reasonable economical excuses. Otherwise, China should prepare to swiftly denazify them and install a friendly socialist, or perhaps a maoist, government. Its not like there's a lack of groups that would be willing to take over.
 
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