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I think the US attempting a two front against Russia and China isn't smart (of Biden).

It could turn out to be the biggest blunder of the Biden presidency.

The Trump administration at least kept to a single front by attacking China. I generally feel the weakness of Democrats is treating Everyone Else as their enemies. The old man's version of cancel culture is trying to cancel out Russia and China.

It really runs through Democrat ideology. People with seemingly different views from the Democrats are morally inferior and wrong and ought to be cancelled away from society. Democrats see Russia and China as incompatible with their ivory tower morality based on their highly warped understanding of the world.

Therefore they try to #cancelrussiaandchina

In fact more evidence is this is in the fact that they have a laundry list of demands regarding China and Russia. It's about getting people who are 'deplorable' and 'inferior' to be converted into the pantheon of Democratism. It's not a two way street at all.

bajingan said:

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Yes the us are getting nervous of China and russia joint coordinated strategic moves in ukraine and taiwan
Also, de facto China and russia alliance will deter many of us vassals in participating in cold war 2.0

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As typical of this kind of article, it's always that the other side "escalated" without mentioning your provocations. And it's full of meaningless and belligerent rhetoric:

This past week, Russia and China simultaneously escalated their separate military activities and threats to the sovereignty of Ukraine and Taiwan respectively — countries whose vibrant independence is an affront to Moscow and Beijing but lies at the heart of U.S. and allies’ interests in their regions.

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Ukraine and Taiwan, vibrant independence? I thought the usual cliche about Taiwan is "vibrant democracy." I suppose it's too stretched to call Ukraine that way, even for the author. He just ran out of words. And Taiwan is not a country, off course not - not even the US recognizes it.

Crang said:

I think it's just Turks. I've had a blast making friends with Eastern Europeans because they were easygoing and non judgemental hence very fun to be with. But Turks, yeah they are a very culturally confident people. Overconfident perhaps.

When I was in university for one semester I regularly sat near a Turkish girl who was extremely confident and sassy. Her eyes communicated confidence in her personality and sexuality.

@azuazu @crash8pilot Why are Singaporeans and Hong Kongers so racist against Bangladeshis and Filipinos? Maybe Filipinos are viewed as annoying, but Bangladeshis are seriously friendly and nice people. In HK, south Asians are treated like scum. In Spore, you have ads like Looking for tenants: No Indians.

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@Crang @BoraTas but Bro you had to admit though Turkish Woman are beautiful!!!, there is something about them, aside from being attractive, the mystic and seductive, Turkey being in the cross road of continental Europe and Asia that combination is perfect!!!

voyager1 said:

Yeah, I cant emphasize that enough. China and Russia joining up together (not necessarily an alliance) is truly horrifying for the whole world.

Especially for the Asia continent, they will become the defacto superpower there. And for the whole Quad thing lol..

But for that to happen Russia would have to accept that it would be the junior partner, although that doesn't mean that China would force it to become a vassal, it would however require Russia to let go of its influence in some matters. E.g Central Asia

Digital Yuan, and decreasing further more the dollar usage in China-Russia trade would be a perfect for countering US sanctions and pressure tactics while also decreasing dollar's strength

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@voyager1 bro its a partnership, the term junior partner is being invented to drive a wedge between the two , to be frank China may need Russia more, the resources and being under Russian nuclear umbrella provide an ideal deterrent and made the US think twice. And this has shaken the US vassal system, her vassal (except for the Six eyes)may question any move the US make, a perfect example is Germany and France on Ukraine and SK and ASEAN regarding China. Instead of helping the US her vassal hamstrung it.

ansy1968 said:

@voyager1 bro its a partnership, the term junior partner is being invented to drive a wedge between the two , to be frank China may need Russia more, the resources and being under Russian nuclear umbrella provide an ideal deterrent and made the US think twice. And this has shaken the US vassal system, her vassal (except for the Six eyes)may question any move the US make, a perfect example is Germany and France on Ukraine and SK and ASEAN regarding China. Instead of helping the US her vassal hamstrung it.

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LOL. China is not under Russia's nuclear umbrella; that's a notion Alex advances to balance his admission that Russia is the junior partner of the two. Agreed with you that the west is trying to divide the two by characterizing Russia's role as being junior (and China is forever eyeing to run over Siberia). That kind of view is decidedly of western nature, particular that of US, which also points to the difficulty that the US has to even envisage a relationship of equality with other countries such as China.

It must be pointed out that Russia did start with some level of distrust towards China when China started to build relationship with Central Asia countries back in the '90s and '00s. But Russia has since become more comfortable with China's presence and influence there, since it has been shown that China does not seek an exclusive partnership and also respects Russia's traditional influence and presence there. Russia and China have over the years developed a level of trust and comfort or pragmatism with each other. For example, China is quite pragmatic about Russia's close defense relationships with India and Vietnam.

The current relationship between China and Russia - a very close strategic partnership, but not a military alliance - is actually the best setup for the two. The two countries share the same strategic view of a multi-polar world and often coordinate their views and positions in important international affairs, have a stable and peaceful long border, and long-term trade and investment agreements, as well as defense cooperation. At the same time, it also gives both sides the strategic space and flexibility to conduct their own foreign affairs without dragging the other side with it. If you compare the relationships between the US and its so-called allies, they're either of client type or vassal type. The clients or vassals need to give up certain strategic autonomy in order to get security protection from the US.

Let me emphasize again, both Russia and China are nuclear powers and strong military powers. There is no need for a military alliance, let alone other's nuclear umbrella. But the two can and do have close defense cooperation.

ansy1968 said:

@Crang @BoraTas but Bro you had to admit though Turkish Woman are beautiful!!!, there is something about them, aside from being attractive, the mystic and seductive, Turkey being in the cross road of continental Europe and Asia that combination is perfect!!!

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imo In the women category their belly dancing beats any east Asian dancing.

Crang said:

I think it's just Turks. I've had a blast making friends with Eastern Europeans because they were easygoing and non judgemental hence very fun to be with. But Turks, yeah they are a very culturally confident people. Overconfident perhaps.

When I was in university for one semester I regularly sat near a Turkish girl who was extremely confident and sassy. Her eyes communicated confidence in her personality and sexuality.

@azuazu @crash8pilot Why are Singaporeans and Hong Kongers so racist against Bangladeshis and Filipinos? Maybe Filipinos are viewed as annoying, but Bangladeshis are seriously friendly and nice people. In HK, south Asians are treated like scum. In Spore, you have ads like Looking for tenants: No Indians.

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Which is why some White loving Asians scream and insist that Asians (Chinese) are more racist than Whites when they're actually projecting out their own examples of bigotry and racism learned and taught by their favorite Anglo-Saxon masters.

voyager1 said:

Look man, I wont defend the guy as he is obviously stereotyping. However, even his
stereotype holds some truth.

So, although he is wrong on saying "all", he is definetely right that Singapore loves the US (majority, not all)

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Hey hang on there, only 76% of us Singaporean citizens are Chinese. And Citizens are only about 60% of Singapore's population, the non-Citizens are assorted workers mainly from India, Bangladesh, Philippines, and Indonesia. The non-Chinese tend to think along the same lines as their ancestral countries. So no, I stand by my observation that a slim majority of Chinese Singaporeans do not support the West, especially the older generations.

Crang said:

Singapore speaks English all the time. Can't be helped. They'll drink the Western kool aid 24/7.

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Yeah because of all the non-Chinese around, like those of us in US and Australia. (我们现在写的是什么语言啊?) And also the vast majority of Singapore Chinese settled here before Beijing dialect was declared as the Standard Language (1903) so the older people speak Chinese in a mess of dialects which cannot be understood by each other, 35% Xiamen dialect 30% Shantou dialect, 20% Cantonese dialects (including those from Taishan and Guangxi who cannot be easily understood by Guangzhou speakers) and the rest 5% Hainan, 5% Meizhou, 2% Fuzhou, 2% Putian dialects etc. In the colonial era, Chinese had to communicate with each other using Malay! Promoting Mandarin is practically from scratch with no prior tradition to build on. That's why the fate of Singapore is not about cultural loyalty. That was already based on weak foundations to start with. It's dependent on the US-China struggle alone; if China has the economy, safety and order, entertainment quality, and open opportunities then people will switch back.

Tse said:

Hey hang on there, only 76% of us Singaporean citizens are Chinese. And Citizens are only about 60% of Singapore's population, the non-Citizens are assorted workers mainly from India, Bangladesh, Philippines, and Indonesia. The non-Chinese tend to think along the same lines as their ancestral countries. So no, I stand by my observation that a slim majority of Chinese Singaporeans do not support the West, especially the older generations.

Yeah because of all the non-Chinese around, like those of us in US and Australia. (我们现在写的是什么语言啊?) And also the vast majority of Singapore Chinese settled here before Beijing dialect was declared as the Standard Language (1903) so the older people speak Chinese in a mess of dialects which cannot be understood by each other, 35% Xiamen dialect 30% Shantou dialect, 20% Cantonese dialects (including those from Taishan and Guangxi who cannot be easily understood by Guangzhou speakers) and the rest 5% Hainan, 5% Meizhou, 2% Fuzhou, 2% Putian dialects etc. In the colonial era, Chinese had to communicate with each other using Malay! Promoting Mandarin is practically from scratch with no prior tradition to build on. That's why the fate of Singapore is not about cultural loyalty. That was already based on weak foundations to start with. It's dependent on the US-China struggle alone; if China has the economy, safety and order, entertainment quality, and open opportunities then people will switch back.

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It's interesting that all these dialects fall under the 闽南话 language subfamily in one region of China (Fujian and eastern Guangdong). Generally you won't find Singaporeans with ancestry from dongbei or Sichuan except for recent migrants.

I could be wrong in that they entirely imbibed European fashion styles despite the lack of body fit of made-for-European clothes. Also, as with Hong Kongers, they summarily throw their hands in the air and say, we can't compete with the European on a cultural level. Just my observation. (Also applies for non Chinese Singaporeans)