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Nobonita Barua

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Oh come on ..... enough with this freedom of speech stupid mantra ... Then why discussion on holocaust is banned?? ....
That's your people's to decide.
There is nothing called "only freedom of speech ". That's like only 33% of freedom.
Freedom of expression, as I have said before, must guarantee freedom of reaction .
And I am free to react in any way I want to react.
You , just like China, lacks the art of irritation.

Just because some frenchies are terrorized doesn't mean I am going to change my way of reaction. I will protect my freedom of reaction to the last westerner.

Either both side of freedom should be present, or none can be.

French President is already saying he won't give his country to Islamic radicals. That is after looting entire Africa.
Showing those pictures are meaningless when he is name calling your entire group.


It's time to see if you really belong to that religion that made even the almighty Hitler bow before it.
Or you are simply another group that gives dialogue like those orange half pants in our neighbour.
The ball is in your court.
 

Breadbox

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I don’t like this at all, I think the important take away here is how the West literally has a completely different perception of reality with the rest of the world through their own media.

There are alot of people who unironically believe that there are no radical Islamist terror attacks on China, there are, alot of them infact, the biggest of them being the Kunming Train station attack(which was the only one that was ever reported in western media afiak because alot of people died(through knife attacks mind you+it occured out of XinJiang).

This is because the Western media barely reports on them and when they do they do it in short report in largely dismissive tones. Like putting “ “ around the word “Terror attacks” and frankly they seem alot more interested in playing up the oppressed minority angle(when they are given ample affirmative actions) rather than expressing any condolences with the victims/condemning the attackers.
I’ve seen alot of extremely angry reactions from the western public, including from a liberal audience and fatality numbers so far is just 3.

Wasn’t there a previously an invitation to the inspect the conditions of the camps? Some countries took to inspecting it, but none from the west did.
Meanwhile the western media kept on pushing the “Genocide Angle” . I imagine some of them is all too happy to paint its geopolitical rival as a ‘genocider’ while the rest doesn’t want to be seen as remotely entertaining the notion.


China had made sure to only target radical suspects(albeit casting a very wide net) and avoid attacking the religion as a whole. <This is what many Westerners fail to grasp.
When the Muslim world side with China, rather than any sort of self-reflection, pretty much all of western public is going to go the “all muslim leaders are corrupt angle” without a second thought.
 

Nobonita Barua

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I don’t like this at all, I think the important take away here is how the West literally has a completely different perception of reality with the rest of the world through their own media.

There are alot of people who unironically believe that there are no radical Islamist terror attacks on China, there are, alot of them infact, the biggest of them being the Kunming Train station attack(which was the only one that was ever reported in western media afiak because alot of people died(through knife attacks mind you+it occured out of XinJiang).

This is because the Western media barely reports on them and when they do they do it in short report in largely dismissive tones. Like putting “ “ around the word “Terror attacks” and frankly they seem alot more interested in playing up the oppressed minority angle(when they are given ample affirmative actions) rather than expressing any condolences with the victims/condemning the attackers.
I’ve seen alot of extremely angry reactions from the western public, including from a liberal audience and fatality numbers so far is just 3.

Wasn’t there a previously an invitation to the inspect the conditions of the camps? Some countries took to inspecting it, but none from the west did.
Meanwhile the western media kept on pushing the “Genocide Angle” . I imagine some of them is all too happy to paint its geopolitical rival as a ‘genocider’ while the rest doesn’t want to be seen as remotely entertaining the notion.

When the Muslim world side with China, rather than any sort of self-reflection, pretty much all of western public is going to go the “all muslim leaders are corrupt angle” without a second thought.
I can relate to that.
We faced terror attack too, most noticeable & recent one was holy artisan bakery attack.

However, I think we need to differentiate between holy artisan/ the ones you have mentioned vs Charlie hebdo instigated attack.

I am declining to call it terror attack. Simply because I don't believe French, with all of their history, has the right to be terrorized.
I am not fan of them playing terrorized victim card.

Terror attack should be condemned & must be stopped.
But my sympathy for professional terrorized people are close to zero.
 

timepass

Brigadier
That's your people's to decide.
There is nothing called "only freedom of speech ". That's like only 33% of freedom.
Freedom of expression, as I have said before, must guarantee freedom of reaction .
And I am free to react in any way I want to react.
You , just like China, lacks the art of irritation.

Just because some frenchies are terrorized doesn't mean I am going to change my way of reaction. I will protect my freedom of reaction to the last westerner.

Either both side of freedom should be present, or none can be.

French President is already saying he won't give his country to Islamic radicals. That is after looting entire Africa.
Showing those pictures are meaningless when he is name calling your entire group.


It's time to see if you really belong to that religion that made even the almighty Hitler bow before it.
Or you are simply another group that gives dialogue like those orange half pants in our neighbour.
The ball is in your court.

There's nothing to do with China..... we are talking about blasphemy (Cartoon) ..... no one has right to disgrace any other region's belief.... simple...
 

Nobonita Barua

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There's nothing to do with China..... we are talking about blasphemy (Cartoon) ..... no one has right to disgrace any other region's belief.... simple...
I didn't say it has anything to do with China. Simply comparing , China's PR capacity is so freakishly horrible.

Well they are claiming its their right.
What are you going to do?

The world is watching :cool:
 

timepass

Brigadier
I can relate to that.
We faced terror attack too, most noticeable & recent one was holy artisan bakery attack.

However, I think we need to differentiate between holy artisan/ the ones you have mentioned vs Charlie hebdo instigated attack.

I am declining to call it terror attack. Simply because I don't believe French, with all of their history, has the right to be terrorized.
I am not fan of them playing terrorized victim card.

Terror attack should be condemned & must be stopped.
But my sympathy for professional terrorized people are close to zero.

Now secondly this Terror Attack word..... this is nothing but political gimmick played very well by US/EU to narrate their prospective.... I remember there were several massacre in US done by whites but Govt labelled him as a mantel issue with that person while if the attacker was Muslim then we all now what he would be labelled ....
 

timepass

Brigadier
I didn't say it has anything to do with China. Simply comparing , China's PR capacity is so freakishly horrible.

Well they are claiming its their right.
What are you going to do?

The world is watching :cool:

Still waiting for the answer for the below ....


There's nothing to do with China..... we are talking about blasphemy (Cartoon) ..... no one has right to disgrace any other region's belief.... simple...
 

Nobonita Barua

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Now secondly this Terror Attack word..... this is nothing but political gimmick played very well by US/EU to narrate their prospective.... I remember there were several massacre in US done by whites but Govt labelled him as a mantel issue with that person while if the attacker was Muslim then we all now what he would be labelled ....
That's not it.
There are some real terror attack. Now I don't really care about what was the reason behind terror attack, for the same reason you have mentioned.

But western terror attack gimmick isn't something you can summarize that simply.

Back then, when 9/11 happened, it was the first time someone retaliated on US soil. Before that, US never faced a foe who were ready to strike them in their own backyard.

They knew it was the beginning. They needed some story to make sure these attacks weren't seen by global people as direct retaliation of US action of foreign soil. Hence, the terrorist attack theory was born with 2 objective.

1. To make sure US action could continue unhindered without global outcry.
2. To push Islamic world on defensive to make sure they try to save their image in front of world by accepting this theory & condemning these.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Still waiting for the answer for the below ....
Waiting for me to answer that?
LMAO

I , in my entire life couldn't figure out, their peculiar theories of freedom, how criticizing me is a right to westerners. Let alone anything that is that person's belonging, be it faith or something else.
I agree with that. Other people's faith can't come under domain of my freedom of expression.

But they are claiming it's their right.
It's your problem how you will reply them.
 
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