Blackstone
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Treking OT, but there's absolutely no evidence US government fomented or tried to foment a color revolution in HK.
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No where in that article does it mention any views or statements from Syria or China. Are people just writing up whatever they like to get paid nowadays?
I doubt he actually said that, at least openly. In between China and Russia you cannot do worse finding a rock and a hard place to squeeze in.
Just saw this.
So, according to that headline, these Terrorists are going to base themselves in Syria to stage attacks on China?
Have they looked at a map?
I just don't see them staging there to attack China. Too many strong military assets watching over Syria now, including the recent and growing Russian presence there. Too far. Too many borders to cross, etc.
Some people want to believe in Pan-Turkism as an achievable goal.
ISIS also likes to draw grand maps.
Actually people from a lot of countries are guilty of being liberal with historical map interpretation (including some from China). But I think making it into a political semi-official stance is a very dangerous thing.
I remember seeing a ridiculous map drawn by some Vietnam nationalist claiming China south of Yangtze as Vietnam historical territory. I also saw one depicting China north of Yangtze as Korean historical territory. So lol China shouldn't actually exist.
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"If" and "can" do not add up to plausible. There are too many players involved that China can't afford to offend, and too many players with much more at stake thereby much more committed to getting their way in Syria than China, for China to be involved in any form other than as part of a UN mandate.
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I think the more insightful paragraph is the ending one:
Indeed people were correct to be optimistic about the speed of change in China under Xi. However that is independent of the direction of change, which is what some are disappointed about because it is not the direction they wanted.
AssassinsMace
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Short memories rule. Obama didn't think the world, especially China, would turn away from US high tech because of the NSA scandal because as he believed they couldn't live without it. Obama whining about China banning US tech and is a major sticking point during Xi's visit says otherwise. It's that kind of arrogance which is the root of all his foreign policy failures. He didn't think Assad would step over that redline hence he made a promise he knew he wouldn't keep. He didn't see Russia taking it as far as they had over Ukraine. And China didn't roll-over and surrender to the Pivot to Asia like he expected which started all the tensions over territory in the Far East. And taking on Russia and China virtually at the same time... that's is a huge amount of arrogance.
Guys, I do not like Obama better than anyone else...but STOP with all of these pure OpEd comments. Report on the News in such matters...leave the rest of us to ferret out what we think it means.
THIS IS A DEFENSE FORUM, not a political, ideology, East vs West, etc., etc. forum where members take open shots at major nations states at will.
Some leeway is allowed for terrorism and obvious rogue nations in this regard...but not for the major nations where we have many members hailing from. The reasons are clear...it only leads to back and forth argument, flame bait, ill will, and bedlam on the forum.
One of the reasons SD remains such a good place to come and discuss defense matters is precisely because we do not tolerate this type of thing.
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THIS IS A DEFENSE FORUM, not a political, ideology, East vs West, etc., etc. forum where members take open shots at major nations states at will.
Some leeway is allowed for terrorism and obvious rogue nations in this regard...but not for the major nations where we have many members hailing from. The reasons are clear...it only leads to back and forth argument, flame bait, ill will, and bedlam on the forum.
One of the reasons SD remains such a good place to come and discuss defense matters is precisely because we do not tolerate this type of thing.
DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MODERATION
But US claimed that the 9/11 attack was organized from Afghanistan so they might consider Syria to be much nearer to China than the distance from Afghanistan to US.
Of course they thought so before the recent Russian moves ....
The staging and preparation happened in the US. Having someone give orders from afar and staging and basing for an attack are two different things.
No...that article is simply seeking hype and headlines IMHO.
With the coalition air forces hunting these terrorists, and with the Russians now on the scene...it is very unlikely that they would be able to put together the logistics and staging for such an attack there...they are going to be more worried about survival.