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Serb

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I do not know why a side that is getting sanctions lifted for the first time in decades, making more money than ever, even just from oil and not even fully tollmaxxing Hormuz yet, becoming far more internally united because it sees itself as fighting for survival and for a just cause, unlike the US and Israel, and actually achieving its military objectives with improving strike quality over time, would suddenly agree to anything short of near total American capitulation.

Trump can only hope to manufacture a "win" by inflicting more damage on civilian infrastructure. The claim that this is seriously degrading Iran’s asymmetric drone and missile capacity is just propaganda for idiots.

Take power infrastructure as one example. If Trump hits a major Iranian plant, Iran can immediately answer in Israel and across the GCC, and it only needs to hit a much smaller number of critical targets to cause disproportionately larger damage.

Iran has nearly 500 power plants. Israel has around 50. The largest Iranian plant, Damavand, makes up about 4 percent of Iran’s total capacity. Israel’s largest plant, Orot Rabin, makes up around 20 percent of Israeli electricity production.
 
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dingyibvs

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I wonder what the GCC's calculus is right now. If the war continues, then there is only one logical conclusion for the ruling elites of the GCC, which is that they will fall. The Israelis will escalate if the war continues, and Iranian retaliation will destroy the GCC nations' oil and water infrastructure. The GCC nations are not held together by beliefs, they're held together by money and living standards. Without oil money or water, their elites will be overthrown. The US and Israel will also be just fine with letting them be the scapegoats and replacing them with new puppet governments.

Their only chance for survival right now is to side with Iran, IMO. Refuse USIS military use of their airspace and put the ball in the USIS's court. This way even if the USIS choose to respond with force, they'll at least have the support of the people. More than that, they can potentially leverage their swing of support into a ceasefire. Carrots for the Iranians (funds for reconstruction), sticks for the USIS (refusal of air space, UST purchases). If they can manage a ceasefire, they'll have bought valuable time to recalibrate policies toward the now obvious reality that their survival cannot be guaranteed by the American military alone and that they'll need to utilize finer, broader diplomacy.
 

dingyibvs

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The judgment here isn't necessarily the issue, the issue is what happens afterwards. I had a mentally ill patient in the hospital a few months ago who killed 2 family members and was committed to a psychiatric facility indefinitely. He did well on meds and was released some years later, then crazily some judge deemed him safe enough to not be monitored re: his medication adherence anymore. What do you know, he stopped taking his meds, fell ill again, and landed in our hospital. Everyone I worked with was bewildered by this.

It's true that we have ways of treating psychiatric illnesses now, even those who may compel someone to murder, but if we're to show leniency to someone who needs to be on meds to not murder people, then we MUST ensure that they stay on meds. There should be on circumstance or loophole where these types of patients are allowed in the community without us being absolutely certain that they're taking their meds.
 

plawolf

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An AI that hallucinates like crazy (in the "right" way) provides the perfect excuse for war crimes as well as protection against potential whistle blowers.

A human that orders a triple tap cruise missile attack against a girls' elementary school is a war criminal and people that report the war crime are protected (at least in theory) by whistle blower protection laws. When the same type of attacks are ordered by AI or automated computer algorithms, no human is responsible, and anyone reporting the problematic behavior and parameter settings of the AI or computer algorithms would be criminally leaking classified performance information and parameter settings of top secret defense systems.

Palantir's biggest client by far is the US government, particularly the US military and intelligence agencies.
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No one was punished for the widespread drone killings of civilians in Afghanistan except Daniel Hale.

Palantir’s sales pitch that win over the Pentagon: ‘We have now gotten ‘accidentally on purpose’ down to a science.’
 

Ringsword

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The judgment here isn't necessarily the issue, the issue is what happens afterwards. I had a mentally ill patient in the hospital a few months ago who killed 2 family members and was committed to a psychiatric facility indefinitely. He did well on meds and was released some years later, then crazily some judge deemed him safe enough to not be monitored re: his medication adherence anymore. What do you know, he stopped taking his meds, fell ill again, and landed in our hospital. Everyone I worked with was bewildered by this.

It's true that we have ways of treating psychiatric illnesses now, even those who may compel someone to murder, but if we're to show leniency to someone who needs to be on meds to not murder people, then we MUST ensure that they stay on meds. There should be on circumstance or loophole where these types of patients are allowed in the community without us being absolutely certain that they're taking their meds.
Should be guilty but insane-locked up and Thorazined-to-the max for life-most of these murderous cretins will use the insanity plea to escape justice.
 

AssassinsMace

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So Taiwan is against the Iran War because that means the US will not have the bombs to use on China. So why is Takaichi losing support already? I heard it dropped something like 25%. And where are all those “I am Clarlie Klirk!” South Koreans? They’re very quiet lately.

Love how the media is still saying Israel still has a 95% interception rate when they are running out of interceptors. The same with the US and then you have Arab allies saying they’re intercepting most of the Iranian attacks too. They running out too since they’re also complaining their assets are being hit? Not a lot of confidence. What happened to the SM-6s they said were protecting Israel in previous attacks. You hear nothing of them during this one.
 
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