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4Tran said:

I suspect that a lot of these people had their formative years in the '80s and '90s when the West was doing infinitely better than China. It'd be easy to think back then that the West had to be doing something right and China doing something wrong to be where they were. It's the same thing as the end of the Qing dynasty where all the reformers saw the West as the thing to emulate. Sure it doesn't take into account China's progress since then, but opinions solidify is most certainly a thing, and the China's rise has simply been too fast for a lot of people to keep up with.

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Which is funny because if these people actually used critical thinking they would realize that it's all bullshit. Like the Reagan era is basically the inspiration of Cyberpunk and also during the 19th Century the common westerner lived worse than Qing dynasty because they're were being worked to death and child labour was infamous during that era.

Puss in Boots said:

Using Taiwan as a comparison here completely reveals your ignorance!
Look at the UN's definition of Taiwan! Then, check the declarations of all countries that have established diplomatic ties with China to see if there's a "One China" policy.

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Forget about Taiwan, let‘s take Nepal as an example. An India in 1980s would have absolutely taken advantage of the situation and sent troops there but today‘s India minded its own business.

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Many people are still writing about some imaginary conflicts in South Asia that do not exist in reality. Today’s South Asia outside of islamic dominated regions are just obsessed with economic growth.

Guys it‘s honestly tiring to write the same things over and over again. Please familiarize yourself with the region you are talking about and do some bare minimum research instead of relying on 30 seconds Instagram/Tik Tok reels and memes to talk about geopolitics.

It‘s also crucial to take a break from the internet, talk to young educated people from South Asia and ask them about what they want, how they see things etc. You would have a much better understanding of the region outside of terminally online chest thumping nationalists and how the region would look going forward.

uguduwa said:

My point was that you can‘t gauge out the scope of policies of a country based on internet comments. We take the tariff debacle between India and the US as an example. If you were to guess from online comments how India would respond to the US, you would think that India would immediately challenge the US the next day but in reality Indian response was silently negotiating a deal while not making any noise. If you read the comments on Trump thread here, many were predicting that India would react loudly and irrationally because people here are trying to guess politics of a country based on online comments but this did not happen in reality.

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Then don't bring up the opinion of Chinese in private because it's irrelevant since they don't live in a democracy. The reason it's brought up here is to say it's worse compared to Indians or Westerners. It called whataboutism that Westerners complain when their hypocrisy is pointed out but they can use it as a legitimate argument to discount others. People who live in a democracy are legitimately responsible for the actions of their government since they vote for their leaders. How do I come to that conclusion? Because Americans blame the Iraqi people for not doing anything about their government during the Iraq War where they don't get to elect their leaders therefore not responsible for what their government does.

uguduwa said:

Forget about Taiwan, let‘s take Nepal as an example. An India in 1980s would have absolutely taken advantage of the situation and sent troops there but today‘s India minded its own business.

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Many people are still writing about some imaginary conflicts in South Asia that do not exist in reality. Today’s South Asia outside of islamic dominated regions are just obsessed with economic growth.

Guys it‘s honestly tiring to write the same things over and over again. Please familiarize yourself with the region you are talking about and do some bare minimum research instead of relying on 30 seconds Instagram/Tik Tok reels and memes to talk about geopolitics.

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Nepal huh?


Now you're gonna say how that doesn't count blah blah blah.

uguduwa said:

Forget about Taiwan, let‘s take Nepal as an example. An India in 1980s would have absolutely taken advantage of the situation and sent troops there but today‘s India minded its own business.

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Many people are still writing about some imaginary conflicts in South Asia that do not exist in reality. Today’s South Asia outside of islamic dominated regions are just obsessed with economic growth.

Guys it‘s honestly tiring to write the same things over and over again. Please familiarize yourself with the region you are talking about and do some bare minimum research instead of relying on 30 seconds Instagram/Tik Tok reels and memes to talk about geopolitics.

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According to your understanding, because India didn't wipe Pakistan off the map, so India is a peace-loving country?
What is a fictitious conflict? Sikkim, a country, simply disappeared, and you're telling me that's fake? Are you blind to see how Sri Lanka and Bhutan are under Indian domination?
You keep repeating these incomprehensible statements over and over again. Have you done any research?

uguduwa said:

Forget about Taiwan, let‘s take Nepal as an example. An India in 1980s would have absolutely taken advantage of the situation and sent troops there but today‘s India minded its own business.

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Many people are still writing about some imaginary conflicts in South Asia that do not exist in reality. Today’s South Asia outside of islamic dominated regions are just obsessed with economic growth.

Guys it‘s honestly tiring to write the same things over and over again. Please familiarize yourself with the region you are talking about and do some bare minimum research instead of relying on 30 seconds Instagram/Tik Tok reels and memes to talk about geopolitics.

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The gurkhas would like to have a word with you.
And the brits aren't any better at all.

In the end of the day the Gurkhas are glorified cannon fodder because once their done they get discarded. If Nepal was richer than there would be no gurkhas.

AssassinsMace said:

Then don't bring up the opinion of Chinese in private because it's irrelevant since they don't live in a democracy. The reason it's brought up here is to say it's worse compared to Indians or Westerners. It called whataboutism that Westerners complain when their hypocrisy is pointed out but they can use it as a legitimate argument to discount others. People who live in a democracy are legitimately responsible for the actions of their government since they vote for their leaders. How do I come to that conclusion? Because Americans blame the Iraqi people for not doing anything about their government during the Iraq War where they don't get to elect their leaders therefore not responsible for what their government does.

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Also In my personal experiences at least 60% of Chinese people are reasonable when It comes to politics. That number is rapidly approaching 0 outside of GFW.

AssassinsMace said:

Jane Goodall just died and of course all the accolades from the West. But she was a typical Western leftist supremacist who believed Westerners only bring good to savage parts of the world. When China was making a presence in Africa, Jane Goodall complained. She was one of those return to Eden fantasy Westerners. She was okay with Westerners in Africa but not okay for Chinese. Westerners have that utopia fantasy to keep Africa primitive and the only oasis of civility in the desert were Westerners. That's how Westerners dream for the world as their playground.

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Funny because I just saw a clip from Jane Goodall's last interview that's on or going to be on Netflix and she says she wants to send Elon Musk on one his rockets to another planet to rule along with Trump, Putin, and Xi. This is where the Western left likes to separate themselves from the actions of their own. Europe could've stopped Trump but they didn't so they're all responsible helping Trump do what he does to the world. So shouldn't Jane Goodall expect the West to be ejected into space.

Africablack said:

Japan doesn't have nuclear weapons currently, there are many Japanese who feel they should but many don't want it. If an outside force tries to remove their institution no matter the reason then very quickly China will have a "Ukraine problem" on its doorstep. This has ripple effects and other neighbors will take measures that will make life difficult for China. If China decides to get into adventurism, it will have to drain resources maintaining it and we can see the folly in this system.

It's one thing if Japan re-militarizes and attacked China tomorrow, any action would be understandable. It's another thing to use 20th century grievances to remove an institution that has lasted centuries. China has become a super power and outclasses Japan, their emperor is a gloried mascot, Japan will not invade China because their leadership understand the stupidity in that so what's the rah-rah about destroying their cultural institution? You don't have to make me understand injustice, I understand the humiliation that comes with colonization. My people were subjected to the worst form of chattel slavery, brutal colonization and near genocide by outsiders. Blacks had to march just to be treated like human beings and given the right to vote as recently as the 1960s, so I know all about the feeling.

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And if Europeans try to enslave your people again, and was rightfully defeated by your people, you would rather their institution for initiating the aggression remain? I am not following your train of thoughts.

hifisnow said:

Also In my personal experiences at least 60% of Chinese people are reasonable when It comes to politics. That number is rapidly approaching 0 outside of GFW.

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Yes Chinese don't just give their opinion on everything like Westerners do. It's like once when I went to go play billiards with some friends at an establishment. There was one person who was Jewish and I was the only non-white. I forgot what brought the conversation up but the guy who was Jewish made a comment that everyone hated the Jews. I was offended because the Chinese have no history of being antisemitic and never participated so I said, "The Chinese don't hate the Jews." I paused because I knew whites wants to believe that's the case that everyone and not just them hate Jews to relieve themselves of being guilty alone. Then I said, "We just don't care!" Everyone burst out laughing. I wasn't going patronize such a comment because the Chinese had no part and I wasn't going to let him make such a generalized statement. It was true and there's nothing wrong in saying that. I'm sure this Jewish guy was expecting some comforting kissing up in saying it. Or sometimes I'll hear blacks in the US think Asians in the world are plotting against them. And I'll tell them, most Asians aren't even thinking about them. And I know some of them will even be more angry because that's even worse when it's completely okay because for one a lot of African-Americans think the world revolves around blacks and whites only. Everyone else is irrelevant.