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taxiya

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He is from Balkans. Their logic is:

US >> Russia.

Russia white. China non-white.

Russia > China.

US >>> China.
To be fair to Balkans, Binkov's battlegrounds are people from Croatia, a country that has been part of the west (Austro Hungarian Empire), then a die-hard Nazi follower (Ustase massacring other Balkans such as Serbs). There is a deep sense of instinctly against anyone outside of the "western world" in the population. They have no mercy or favorite of other non-western white such as Serbs and Russians reflected in this movie based on true event
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These people logic is simpler as: West (first Nazi Germany then USA) is greater than anybody else.
 
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siegecrossbow

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To be fair to Balkans, Binkov's battlegrounds are people from Croatia, a country that has been part of the west (Austro Hungarian Empire), then a die-hard Nazi follower (Ustase massacring other Balkans such as Serbs). There is a deep sense of instinctly against anyone outside of the "western world" in the population. They have no mercy or favorite of other non-western white such as Serbs and Russians reflected in this movie based on true event
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These people logic is simpler as: West (first Nazi Germany then USA) is greater than anybody else.

I wonder if they’ll put all the blames on Trump if the U.S. military doesn’t perform up to par during AR…
 

Phead128

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US military YouTube channels are butthurt right now over Chinese military developments. I was wondering when they were going to post something since these recent developments. Guess what? They not talking about them. They're distracting from them where they're instead questioning if China actually launched fighters from a catapult and they admit they're just doing it for views. Or another one where the guy is just now reporting about the J-36 like this was the first time and how it's not stealthy. I guess he didn't even talk about it at all when it did come out.

I was wondering if Trump was really invited to the upcoming anniversary parade because how it's being reported on how trade negotiations are going with China. China just lets the US vent while the Chinese are just sitting there reading a book or filing their nails. Would Trump bother since that's where trade negotiations are? I don't think China has ever allowed a top adversary to have a front row seat like that before to potentially seeing China's new stuff. He probably has some of his own people not to go because that's an acknowledgement of China's progress and the Japanese telling him not to do it because that's an insult to them.
They are so butthurt. It's delicious.

They are really scrapping the bottom of barrel for excuses, like "it's just for views"... Yea, those Concept Artwork of F-47 is clickbait vaporware hype too. Show up or shut up, that simple.
 

Heliox

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They probably believed the 150km was fake and the real range was 100km.

Ultimately, all this attention on the perceived-real range of the PL-15 is just smoke and mirrors.

So what if it was 100km? And if the PAF crossed the border to get within launch range, the excuse will be "we (IAF) were not going to cross the Border so we expected PAF to be gentlemanly and also stay on their side"?

And so what if it is really 200km? It affords the PAF the luxury of launching at a distance out of harms way BUT ... The reality of it is that, whether 100km or 150km or 200km, the final few 10kms are the same.
  • The IAF did not detect the incoming Fox Three.
  • If they did, the IAF did not manage to defeat the incoming PL-15s whether by ECM or Countermeasures.
  • If they actually even saw the incoming missiles, there was enough smash that the planes shot down couldn't even lose the missiles with evasive maneuvers.
This says a lot as quoted MAX range mean nothing if your missile does not have enough energy at those range to prosecute maneuverable targets. Depending on where we are on the above list of IAF not being able to detect/see/evade the incoming PL-15s, it either reinforces their incompetence or if they still insists they are not incompetent, then the kinematics of the PL-15 must really be top of their class.

Being able to reach out and down a modern, fighter aircraft at ranges >100km is big boys league stuff. Doing it in a combat environment is icing on the cake as it cuts out all the bullshit about benign test/exercise parameters.
 
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