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plawolf

Lieutenant General
‘Giving’ nukes only works in one of two ways.

One you give/accidentally-on-purpose-allow the country to obtain the tech and raw materials to make their own nukes (Israel, NK, Pakistan).

Two is you formally extend your own nuclear umbrella over them and publicly declare that any nuclear attack on them will be treated as a nuclear attack on you and you will respond accordingly with your own nukes (NATO, Japan, Warsaw Pack).

Option one is a no go right now.

Just sending a few of your own nukes across and letting someone else slap their own flag on it won’t work. All it will take is for the likely target of the nukes in question to declare that any nuclear attack by that country/province will be considered as a nuclear first strike by you to make those nukes worse than useless. This is why America can’t get away with gifting nukes to Taiwan or Japan, and in the same way, Russia can’t gift Iran nukes and expect to not suffer consequences if Iran uses them.

The only way to protect Iran from nuclear attack is if one of the existing nuclear powers puts them under their own nuclear umbrella, and frankly no one cares about Iran remotely enough to do that.

Iran’s best deterrence against nuclear attack by Israel or America would be to threaten to detonate dirty bombs in their cities if Iran is nuked.
 

PLAwatcher12

Junior Member
Registered Member
Its actually worse than no experience. Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent. It is like how Ukrainian conscripts are saying that NATO trainers actually less knowledge about real war than they do, don't listen to them and how foreign fighters in Ukraine are actually surprised by getting pounded by drones, artillery, missiles and air power. Aren't only the 'good guys' supposed to have that??
Im some ways it is and some ways it isn’t, we don’t know how most Chinese gear will work in wars but the US has tested theirs in combat but also they have no clue how to fight against an army with drones fighters and lots of missiles and artrillery
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Im some ways it is and some ways it isn’t, we don’t know how most Chinese gear will work in wars but the US has tested theirs in combat but also they have no clue how to fight against an army with drones fighters and lots of missiles and artrillery
Past American military adventures aren't wars, they are big game huntings. Testing your weapons against goat herders is no different from testing them in testing ranges.
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member
Im some ways it is and some ways it isn’t, we don’t know how most Chinese gear will work in wars but the US has tested theirs in combat but also they have no clue how to fight against an army with drones fighters and lots of missiles and artrillery
I hope every single Western Military planner think like that so US ally armies probably get decimated in a future war. China has been selling military hardware since the 60s, from combat jets to Cruise Missiles to drones to AKs. From Guerrilla Warfare to Big shooting wars like Iran-Iraq. They evaluate directly and indirectly the performance and the use of each weapon and incorporate that in their training doctrine. The Pakistani air victory against India was due Chinese and Pakistani air force training together incorporating the lesson of past air battles between India and Pakistan. The French didn't that with the Indian. China is clearly evaluating the success of Iranian missiles in Israel, who defeated the most advance air defense system, ever, China has the largest most comprehensive missile arsenal ever. The Russia-Ukraine-Mossad drones are made with Chinese components, imagine how much advance Chinese FPV drones are going to be. Chinese are not only going to be more unjammable but also incorporate automated targeting features and swarm intelligence.
And the Chinese are also are going to evaluate, if the Iran-Israel war extend, the use of Iran Noor anti-ship cruise missiles. A version of China 802 anti-ship cruise missile. As a "PLA watcher" you should pay a little more attention.
Past American military adventures aren't wars, they are big game huntings. Testing your weapons against goat herders is no different from testing them in testing ranges.
Exactly, US B-2 and F-35 have never been tested against real air defenses
 

PLAwatcher12

Junior Member
Registered Member
Past American military adventures aren't wars, they are big game huntings. Testing your weapons against goat herders is no different from testing them in testing ranges.
I do agree but it does give them more experience under stressful and under weather but it up against a near peer, what they haven’t faced since ww2 or possibly Korea. The recent ones are against terrorists
 
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