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gelgoog

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A conflict with China is done at sea and land striking only. There won't be no boots in China's soil even at the most severe case.
What makes you think the US will even need to close the Straits of Mallaca to deny China access to Middle Eastern oil. If they control those ME countries they can just make them not export oil to China in the first place.
 

A potato

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I honestly find the EITM very overrated in terms of actual power. Why are they in Syria murdering innocent people instead of being brave fighters back home in Xinjiang? Coz they don't have the capability to do so. Hell they can't even operate well in central Asia which is full of tough guys. They aren't like Chechens. They don't have any super special powers that make them any different from other guys who join isis.

As for the genocide stuff, imagine wasting billions on a huge campaign only to lose it to a bunch of vloggers who went to Xinjiang. At this point it is just a sunk cost.

There needs to be retaliation for supporting separatist cause. But the key is not to overreact and find the best way that will make them feel pain even if takes longer.
Well I am sure Xi dosen't need to do anything because the Chinese American/Canadian GWOT veteran community will most likely take care of the ETIM issue because the fact that the US and to some extent Canada is supporting Uyghur Jihadist is a complete betrayal to those Chinese North American soldiers who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq. I personally pissed about this (Even though I didn't serve in any campaign) and I am sure that many of the members of this SDF who served during or actually were deployed during the global war on terror would feel the same way.
 

doggydogdo

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What would any of that do to make the lives of the Chinese people better as a whole?

The responsibility of the Communist Party of China and the government of the People's Republic of China is to the people of China -- they are the ones who pay taxes and who put in sweat and effort that gives China the resources it has. Why should those precious resources go to outsiders who can't even help themselves? You control terrorism in your own borders by focusing on law and order and material conditions inside your borders, not by wasting money on foreign adventures thousands of kilometers away. That has worked extremely well.

Also, China gives plenty of aid and even more investment to the Global South. China just tends to stay out of the Middle East for good reason. China invests in places where Chinese investment is win-win. The Middle East tends to be lose-lose for everyone who tries, so China wisely doesn't try.
You don't think fighting terrorists would be good? Pakistani terrorists target and kill Chinese workers should China not give a fuck? should China not end Myanmar's shit military regime that does nothing other than kidnapping Chinese and forcing them to scam? US have allies because US created them, China should do the same.
 

Laviduce

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Not sure if posted already but the German foreign ministry (on X) had this to say about the situation between Iran and Israel, following the attacks on Iran:

The situation in the Middle East has escalated dramatically overnight. Israel has carried out targeted strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities. Iran is responding with hundreds of drone attacks on Israel. This development is more than alarming.

We strongly condemn the indiscriminate Iranian attack on Israeli territory. Iran’s nuclear program violates the Non-Proliferation Treaty and poses a threat to the entire region – especially to Israel.

Israel has the right to defend its existence and the security of its citizens. At the same time, Germany remains committed to diplomacy – together with our partners in Europe and the United States.


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At first I thought this came from a parody account like the Onion but no this "seems" to be a genuine statement from the German foreign ministry. I literally almost had to laugh out loud by the sheer absurdity and ridiculousness of the statement.

Saying "we call on all parties to avoid further escalation." should have sufficed. But nooo! Let's print some nonsense and lies for the world to see. SMFHO.

Please note, that these people do NOT represent Germany or its people or the respective interests of Germany and its people. These people are mostly foreign agents with overlapping geopolitical goals. They are mostly transatlanticists, neocons, neolibs, ultra-zionists, and sociopathic neofascists.
 

delfer

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Not sure if posted already but the German foreign ministry (on X) had this to say about the situation between Iran and Israel, following the attacks on Iran:

The situation in the Middle East has escalated dramatically overnight. Israel has carried out targeted strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities. Iran is responding with hundreds of drone attacks on Israel. This development is more than alarming.

We strongly condemn the indiscriminate Iranian attack on Israeli territory. Iran’s nuclear program violates the Non-Proliferation Treaty and poses a threat to the entire region – especially to Israel.

Israel has the right to defend its existence and the security of its citizens. At the same time, Germany remains committed to diplomacy – together with our partners in Europe and the United States.


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At first I thought this came from a parody account like the Onion but no this "seems" to be a genuine statement from the German foreign ministry. I literally almost had to laugh out loud by the sheer absurdity and ridiculousness of the statement.

Saying "we call on all parties to avoid further escalation." should have sufficed. But nooo! Let's print some nonsense and lies for the world to see. SMFHO.

Please note, that these people do NOT represent Germany or its people or the respective interests of Germany and its people. These people are mostly foreign agents with overlapping geopolitical goals. They are mostly transatlanticists, neocons, neolibs, ultra-zionists, and sociopathic neofascists.
They’re just sadistic idiots with no brain or self awareness. Everything their adversaries do is illegal and a war crime, everything they do is legal and just. Lunatics, and they actually call themselves leaders. More like losers.
 

Moonscape

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You don't think fighting terrorists wou


ld be good? Pakistani terrorists target and kill Chinese workers should China not give a fuck? should China not end Myanmar's shit military regime that does nothing other than kidnapping Chinese and forcing them to scam? US have allies because US created them, China should do the same.
China's resources are limited.

From a "improving the lives of Chinese people," it is almost always better to use those resources domestically. And China does do international work when it has to, but it's not a first choice.

Myanmar scams? Increase training and awareness domestically (both how to recognize scam and where not to go on vacation), with limited cross-border operations (Operation 1027 and its precursor police investigation).

Pakistani terrorists? China is doing a shitload to support the Pakistan military. But China won't (and shouldn't) use its own troops to fix another country's domestic terrorism problem. And Chinese involvement in Pakistan is focused on the Pakistani military because the Pakistan government is a shitshow and China is wise enough to not get too deep in that mess.

Uighurs? Reducation + retraining took care of the problem already. No need to send an extremely expensive expeditionary force to Syria. All the money saved was used to improve quality of life domestically to permanently eradicate the problem.

The United States wasted trillions of dollars on foreign misadventures, leading directly to its current decline and debt crisis. China wisely avoided all of that by focusing on itself.


This has always been the MO of Chinese leadership, by the way.

是故百戰百勝,非善之善者也;不戰而屈人之兵,善之善者也。

非利不動,非得不用,非危不戰。主不可以怒而興師,將不可以慍而致戰;合于利而動,不合于利而止。怒可以復喜,慍可以復悅,亡國不可以復存,死者不可以復生。故明君慎之,良將警之,此安國全軍之道也。

China wants to win without fighting. And China won't fight unless it has to. Anger is not a good enough reason to fight.
 
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delfer

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If Iran’s lack of response is truly because of Israel’s attack destroying most of their launchers and AD, and not because they are simply waiting for the right moment to attack, then I guess this just illustrates the true scale of the big military superpowers like the US, Russia and China.

In Ukraine, Russia and America lose launchers and air defense systems in huge numbers, yet new ones keep popping out of storage and are put into service the very next day. They go through thousands of drones and hundreds of large missiles and glide bombs a day like no big deal.

All the ammo depots that spectacularly exploded for days on end in Russia, all the tanks and vehicles they lost, for more than three years now, and yet they just keep chugging on like a juggernaut.

Meanwhile Iran soils itself from a single day of attacks and already appears to be crumbling and unable to respond.
 

Racek49

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China's resources are limited.

From a "improving the lives of Chinese people," it is almost always better to use those resources domestically. And China does do international work when it has to, but it's not a first choice.

Myanmar scams? Increase training and awareness domestically (both how to recognize scam and where not to go on vacation), with limited cross-border operations (Operation 1027 and its precursor police investigation).

Pakistani terrorists? China is doing a shitload to support the Pakistan military. But China won't (and shouldn't) use its own troops to fix another country's domestic terrorism problem. And Chinese involvement in Pakistan is focused on the Pakistani military because the Pakistan government is a shitshow and China is wise enough to not get too deep in that mess.

Uighurs? Reducation + retraining took care of the problem already. No need to send an extremely expensive expeditionary force to Syria. All the money saved was used to improve quality of life domestically to permanently eradicate the problem.

The United States wasted trillions of dollars on foreign misadventures, leading directly to its current decline and debt crisis. China wisely avoided all of that by focusing on itself.


This has always been the MO of Chinese leadership, by the way.

是故百戰百勝,非善之善者也;不戰而屈人之兵,善之善者也。

非利不動,非得不用,非危不戰。主不可以怒而興師,將不可以慍而致戰;合于利而動,不合于利而止。怒可以復喜,慍可以復悅,亡國不可以復存,死者不可以復生。故明君慎之,良將警之,此安國全軍之道也。

China wants to win without fighting. And China won't fight unless it has to. Anger is not a good enough reason to fight.
Yes, the US wasted a trillion dollars, that's true. And the result? China and Russia are surrounded by enemy states or US vassals. Moreover, there will be a lot of submarines in the nearby seas. In the event of a war, the US will attack from foreign territories close to the borders of Russia and China. The US itself will be ten thousand kilometers away. And they can prepare for a counterattack with long-range means in time and minimize the damage.
Yes, economically the US is declining due to too much emphasis on services in the economy. But it remained a military superpower and dominance in the financial sphere and the dollar and its printing or its digitization ... that's for further analysis ..
Oh yes, I'm depressed about that attack. I've experienced the rise and fall of efforts to build a better world and new hope in China and Putin, who brought Russia to the better side. Well, it's going to be difficult now, friends.
 

supercat

Colonel
Almost all African countries are convening in China.
Not surprisingly:

Today's gaslighting and BS from The Economist:

The world must escape the manufacturing delusion​

Governments’ obsession with factories is built on myths—and will be self-defeating
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doggydogdo

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China's resources are limited.

From a "improving the lives of Chinese people," it is almost always better to use those resources domestically. And China does do international work when it has to, but it's not a first choice.
Thats not how resources work, If China helps other countries with aid and economic growth it will help create jobs and increase the demand for Chinese products. Basically, what US did with the Marshall plan. Imagin a Pakistan where everyone drives Chinese cars, that would be a huge boon to Chinese industry.
The United States wasted trillions of dollars on foreign misadventures, leading directly to its current decline and debt crisis. China wisely avoided all of that by focusing on itself.
I mean US is basically evil half of the times. They were the ones to create all the terrorists in the first place before wasting trillions on fighting them. China should focus on actually improving foreign countries and their living standards (what causes extremism in the first place) so they would be better allies and buy more Chinese goods instead of just occupying a country and do nothing to help the economy or governance at all
 
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