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SanWenYu

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IMO, China should have NEVER relied on or allowed large scale export of raw RE in the first place. Instead China should only export electric motors, Infrared sensors etc. as final product. China should never aim to be a raw material exporter.

So I encourage US, EU and Japan and everybody to divert away from importing RE from China. With the top reserve and complete spectrum of RE China dominate the world in industrial product for almost ever.

This principle is universal to everything, such as oil rich countries. It is bad and weak for them to export crude oil, they should get richer by exporting chemical product, fabric for clothes, all range of plastics etc.
While I agree that China should have long minimized or even stopped raw material exports, in particular for RE, saying China should have never relied on doing so is missing the historical reasons behind it. At the time when China barely had any competitive manufacturing, to balance the international trades that were critical for importing machines and technologies, there were not many choices other than exporting raw goods.

Nowadays, entrenched interests are more likely than necessity keeping China in the business of exporting raw materials.
 

iewgnem

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With the current controls, it’s only a matter of time before someone, somewhere will find a solution, since they don’t have a choice.

The existing refining technology and efficiency may not be replicable anytime soon but never say never when it comes to new and novel ways of handling the refining process, tho it will still be years away from commercial viability and scale.

If China wants to continue the ‘if you don’t want to sell me shit, then you are not making the shit’ strat, then it has to leverage the current period of reliance into something more permanent.

Well, there is always something mighty called the wait list. Plus Trump will probably just want big numbers that he can plaster on documents and quote to shut people down. It’s his final term anyway, if nothing major happens in the US, so what does he care about actually delivering.
The assumption has been it's a time problem, that assumption has been in place for 15 years, evidently if it's a time problem then the timeframe is a lot longer than most assumed.

The problem here isn't production or technology, it's scale and expectations, the modern 21st century world was built on unlimited access to Chinese industry, people has come to expect having power seats, ABS, phones, etc, they expect to be able to afford it and they take for granted their ability to import parts needed from China. The problem is not the ability for the west build magnet, although that is also a problem for them when it comes to high end ones, even if they develop the technology and build the plants, the size of their industrial base, which derives from population and energy production among other factors, just isn't physically big enough to meet expectations that's shaped by China.

e.g. The ability for a country the size of UK to maintain a 21st century economy without any external trade isn't really a time or technology problem, the only thing they can do is lower expectations

As for China taking advantage, humanoid robots and low altitude economy are both massively reliant on PM motors, each joint in a humanoid robot (or robot dog) is a high pole PM motor, each rotor in a eVTOL is a large PM motor, PM motors are the foundation of modern kinematics, everything that moves needs them. By the time the west start producing their own magnets, and even if they can scale up, China would already have establish an insurmountable lead. This isn't a fixed window opportunity, this is more like breaking the legs of someone in a race, yeah the leg might be able to heal, but the race would be long over by then.
 

GulfLander

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Us officials using the term "agroterrorism"?
Two Chinese scientists were charged with conspiracy and smuggling on Tuesday after attempting to clear US customs with a plant disease-causing fungus that officials called a “potential agroterrorism agent”. The Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested Jian Yunqing, a postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Michigan, for the alleged smuggling of the fungus Fusarium graminearum.

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siegecrossbow

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And Deng was the one who ordered troops to crush the riots but they blame Li Peng.

Li Peng actually humored the protestors and granted them audience within Zhongnanhai. Can you imagine Sleepy Joe or Ronald Grump granting audience to pro-Palestine protest leaders after they staged a month long sit-in at Capitol Hill? They’d be lucky if they don’t get tased in the balls.
 

supercat

Colonel
Today's trade-war stories:

Automakers Race to Find Workaround to China’s Stranglehold on Rare-Earth Magnets​

Major manufacturers, fearful they will have to shut down assembly lines, consider moving some parts production to China
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China's rare earth export curbs hit Europe's auto industry​

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A New Era of Trade Warfare Has Begun for the U.S. and China​

Instead of battling over tariffs, Washington and Beijing have turned to a potentially far more harmful strategy: flexing their control over global supply chains.
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Gaslighting and coping tweet of the day:
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