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Virtup said:

The low altitude economy drones would only be useful for detecting ground troops. To fight those ground troops, you would need MANY combat drones, and those would need to have their own logistics chains even if some commonality exists. To deal with stealth aircraft and missiles, you would need dedicated AW&C and combat drones, which would have to somehow cover the ENTIRE chinese borders, including valleys and mountains.

I am talking about ballistic missiles because China would then have to deal them coming from the north and northwest as well, instead of Russia helping intercept them and retaliating on those who launch them.

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You got a lot of questions and doubts blud. Just say, a thought experiment like, that the Politburo put you in charge of a new ministry, the Ministry of Getting F-ing Things Done. If you sat down at your desk in the morning, I bet you would have at least 3 or 4 plans on how to overcome all these issues before dinner time.

By the way, poor strategy on relying on a third party like Russia to intercept ballistic missiles on your behalf. Best to find an indigenous solution.

Bellum_Romanum said:

You're not being serious with Russia disbanding are you? But man, this latest attack the Ukrainians is beyond an embarrassment for Russian military and it's "defense" that even it's own strategic bases are easily penetrated and attack losing valuable assets at the same time.

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They are not valuable assets thats why its importance get lessen on RT Arabic or disappear altogether. when some things get more repeated on RT Arabic that mean that is the direction of technology. there is whole alot of info about SU-34 that use the same missiles as larger bombers. and these old bombers lacks any kind of electronics of newer bomber like Tu-160M2. it takes minimum of 2 days for repeat of Tu-96 sortie while Su-34 can do 6 sorties loaded in less than 24 hours and this transition is happening to Su-57 now.
Russia will use them as long as it has crew but it slow way of creating attack profile as Ukraine knows about attack days ahead.
They have other logistic constraints that make inspection not easy and to lessen burden on logistics the Soft Power inside Russia mention to standardized autos or get rid of expensive cars.
if Putin had more Soft Power available he may have conducted this conflict differently and he does not want to use too much soft power internally than people will realize that he is governing through soft power. I am referring to Green color for people who are new to Soft power which is the only thing matter for this Ukraine conflict.

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According to the source, Russia has developed long-range winged missiles that can be placed inside the fuselage for use with Su-57 stealth fighters, and although the new missiles are relatively small, their range is similar to that of the winged missiles used with Russian Tu-95MS and Tu-160 strategic bombers.

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Xiongmao said:

You got a lot of questions and doubts blud. Just say, a thought experiment like, that the Politburo put you in charge of a new ministry, the Ministry of Getting F-ing Things Done. If you sat down at your desk in the morning, I bet you would have at least 3 or 4 plans on how to overcome all these issues before dinner time.

By the way, poor strategy on relying on a third party like Russia to intercept ballistic missiles on your behalf. Best to find an indigenous solution.

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My questions and doubts should be obvious to anyone. There is no "indigenous solution" to getting surrounded and swarmed by 40+ countries on all sides. The obvious solution is help Russia so it doesn't collapse and then cooperate together with North Korea and maybe Iran to keep the west busy and prevent them from siphoning wealth from the rest of the world until their alliances collapse or fragment on their own. That is the only winning strategy. The CPC knows it and has probably a million plan, small and big, in action in different nations of the world as part of this strat. Whether they succeed in executing it or not, however, is a different topic that I'm not prepared to dive into.

Virtup said:

My questions and doubts should be obvious to anyone. There is no "indigenous solution" to getting surrounded and swarmed by 40+ countries on all sides. The obvious solution is help Russia so it doesn't collapse and then cooperate together with North Korea and maybe Iran to keep the west busy and prevent them from siphoning wealth from the rest of the world until their alliances collapse or fragment on their own. That is the only winning strategy. The CPC knows it and has probably a million plan, small and big, in action in different nations of the world as part of this strat. Whether they succeed in executing it or not, however, is a different topic that I'm not prepared to dive into.

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ok let's agree to disagree. In summary there are two strategy options we are talking about, ie

In the scenario that Russia is danger of collapsing, you either:
a) Support Russia, covertly if necessary, so that the collapse does not happen;
b) Do nothing, and if Russia collapses, take full advantage of the situation by grabbing resources/land if it is in the national interest.

Then you would choose a) and I would choose b).

Xiongmao said:

ok let's agree to disagree. In summary there are two strategy options we are talking about, ie

In the scenario that Russia is danger of collapsing, you either:
a) Support Russia, covertly if necessary, so that the collapse does not happen;
b) Do nothing, and if Russia collapses, take full advantage of the situation by grabbing resources/land if it is in the national interest.

Then you would choose a) and I would choose b).

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China already have unlimited RMB priced access to Russian resources.
Australia is a much easier target if China needs more land/resources.

iewgnem said:

China already have unlimited RMB priced access to Russian resources.
Australia is a much easier target if China needs more land/resources.

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China can buy Russian resources for now yes. But what about in 10 years time? In 100 years? In 1000 years? Don't forget Russia wanted to nuke China 60 years ago but was stopped by the US.

Also, are you seriously suggesting that Australia would be an easier military target than Outer Manchuria if Russia collapses? This is where the conversation started, go read back.

Bellum_Romanum said:

I don't even know what the bloody f..k the Russians are trying to achieve anymore. If they are this deluded that U.S. post-Trump can and will live up to whatever stupidity the Russians are trying to entertain then they deserve to get a spanking they should never forget and crater that country's arrogance into an actual introspection. They have been showering themselves with too much Jai Russia nonsense and coping with their embarassing military operations with nothing to show for it.

And if we're being honest I am not at all impressed with the current Russian military strategy and tactics.

The fact that they're slowly "winning" against a relatively weaker and smaller enemy shouldn't be a surprised tbh. But the fact that's it's taken them 3 plus years to make the gain they have with the size and shape of their much vaunted military is just an indictment of how the Russian military image and perception are built upon that country's past successes that have nothing to do with the current dog shit of a military they have at the moment.

I wonder what sort of excuses they are going to come up with this time around.

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This is the right military strategy as it has the backing of my favorite topic. They have taken a medium size European country and did certain population replacement in captured area. this is not like Iraqi occupation by US where it has to do deals with Kurds and Shiites to keep things afloat and learn nothing.
Russia only country in world that had external debt decrease with so much military spending. This a true Super Power where fraction of population is setting the direction of country with so much tech advancements that i cannot summarize it. i dont have time otherwise i would have updated Russia economy thread.
what Putin learning from this conflict if it was upto him with right amount of Soft Power this conflict would go all the way to 2036. The progress is measure in terms of Soft Power and human development with equal grades to behavior.
you can observe the progress in Soft Power.
when Culture Minister first met Bahraini minister in 2024 they had translator.
A year later when she came back again the translator is push aside and they sit in same Sofa
The King also gave her Sword.

pmc said:

They are not valuable assets thats why its importance get lessen on RT Arabic or disappear altogether. when some things get more repeated on RT Arabic that mean that is the direction of technology. there is whole alot of info about SU-34 that use the same missiles as larger bombers. and these old bombers lacks any kind of electronics of newer bomber like Tu-160M2. it takes minimum of 2 days for repeat of Tu-96 sortie while Su-34 can do 6 sorties loaded in less than 24 hours and this transition is happening to Su-57 now.
Russia will use them as long as it has crew but it slow way of creating attack profile as Ukraine knows about attack days ahead.
They have other logistic constraints that make inspection not easy and to lessen burden on logistics the Soft Power inside Russia mention to standardized autos or get rid of expensive cars.
if Putin had more Soft Power available he may have conducted this conflict differently and he does not want to use too much soft power internally than people will realize that he is governing through soft power. I am referring to Green color for people who are new to Soft power which is the only thing matter for this Ukraine conflict.

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I am sorry. I am all for bashing Ukraine and NATO but this just sounds like Copium coming out of Jai Hind asses. Since when is strategic bombers thousands of miles this side of line of contact not valuable assets? Even if they weren't, the fact that you got infiltration all the way to fucking Irkutsk is laughable material.

Xiongmao said:

China can buy Russian resources for now yes. But what about in 10 years time? In 100 years? In 1000 years? Don't forget Russia wanted to nuke China 60 years ago but was stopped by the US.

Also, are you seriously suggesting that Australia would be an easier military target than Outer Manchuria if Russia collapses? This is where the conversation started, go read back.

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China can always get outer Manchuria in a few hundred years. Clearly, the United States is a more pressing and imminent threat to China. However, Russia doesn't treat Ukraine war seriously, so neither should China. Only when Russia goes all-in, war-time economy, mass mobilization, should China even remotely consider "rescuing" it. Putin treats Ukraine with kids gloves, China can't force the blind to see. I hope Russia can prove us wrong, so far, it's been disappointing. For China's sake, Russia needs to take it way more seriously and win.

Xiongmao said:

China can buy Russian resources for now yes. But what about in 10 years time? In 100 years? In 1000 years? Don't forget Russia wanted to nuke China 60 years ago but was stopped by the US.

Also, are you seriously suggesting that Australia would be an easier military target than Outer Manchuria if Russia collapses? This is where the conversation started, go read back.

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You're doing a poor job at pushing western talking points.
- I don't know if Russia will still be an ally in 10, 100 or 1000 years, but America isn't an ally today and will never be, not in 10, 100 or 1000 years
- Russia does not want to nuke China today, America both wants to nuke China today and 70 years ago during Korea
- Russia won't collapse if China backs them, while Australia will be a much easier target if America collapses, and America will collapse without Chinese backing.

Both side are kept from collapse by Chinese backing, ergo, if China has to cease backing one side and cause them to collapse, collapsing America means taking Australia and eliminate a current threat without increasing Russian threat, while collapsing Russia means gaining no additional resources, eliminate no nuclear threat and increasing conventional threat from a current enemy.