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montyp165

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Eventine said:
You have to understand, their hatred of the KMT and by association China is far greater than any other position or ideology. The whole of the DPP platform is built around Taiwanese nationalism & hating the KMT and China & they cannot wait until the day they can cast off the “Republic of China” name. In an increasingly radicalized world, such Us vs. Them dynamics have power and appeals greatly to the DPP base which can be compared to the Hong Kong umbrella “revolutionaries” driven by similar sentiments.

Under the cloak of democracy, hate based nationalistic movements have emerged and evolved around the world. They are best thought of as new age fascism, in the process of becoming the very things they pretend to oppose.
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They also don't remember who the greatest destroyers of fascists happen to be, which is why in the end they won't be getting away with anything.
 
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AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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The only way the US and the West will ever be able to compete with China is when their economies are destroyed. The reason why there's a wage disparity with the West compared to the rest of the world is because in order for the West during colonialism they had to destroy other countries' economies in order to it make easier to take them over. The West got rich while everyone else had to start from zero. That's why Western economies are ahead. So the only way they can compete now is if their economies are destroyed and they had to start from zero. Everything costs the West more to do than for China.

Elizabeth Economy blowing with the wind. Before she was all negative and pessimistic on everything China. Now it would be foolish to continue on that narrative. I expect the same to happen to Nial Ferguson
 
Lethe

Lethe

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Folks who are familiar with the Australian political scene may recall that, after China-Australia relations sank to new lows amidst the bellicose rhetoric of the Morrison government (2018-22), there was a backlash from Chinese Australians at the 2022 election that contributed to a change in government. The Liberal party acknowledged the alienation of Chinese Australians from the Liberal brand in its official review of the 2022 loss, and has since spent the last three years trying to regain their confidence. Those efforts appeared to be bearing at least some incremental fruit, until the final week of the recent election campaign where Liberal Senator Jane Hume blew it all up by accusing volunteers (of Chinese descent) for other political parties of being Chinese spies.

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article provides the most extensive account I have read of how that all unfolded:

This masthead spoke to 10 Liberal and Labor sources, who had differing opinions on the effectiveness of the Liberal Party’s three-year strategy to reconnect with the 1.4 million members of the Chinese-Australian community.

But they all agreed the strategy fell apart as clips of the Sunrise interview were shared to WeChat, the Chinese social media app, and Labor senator Penny Wong posted her own video attacking Hume’s comments. One Labor MP said Wong’s video immediately began popping up in conversations with Chinese Australians in Melbourne.

“We’ve seen this before from the Liberal Party. Why is it that the Liberal Party continues to question the loyalty of Chinese Australians?” Wong said in the video.

“We all remember how Peter Dutton weaponised the relationship with China. He didn’t care about the consequences for us, for our communities. Now he wants your vote, he says something different. But Chinese Australians know what Peter Dutton is like. While mountains and rivers can be changed, one’s nature is difficult to alter.”

This proverb, spoken in Mandarin, is now haunting the Liberals as they seek to alter their nature into a party that can again win elections. Key to this is reconciling how a community that is crucial to the Coalition’s electoral chances has swung against it in several crucial seats in the past two federal elections.
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