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Ringsword

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gpt said:
In the Commerce Secretary
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, Trump's appointee Howard Lutnick said:

“I do not believe DeepSeek was done all above board. That’s nonsense. They stole things, they broke in, they’ve taken our IP and it’s got to end,” Lutnick says of Chinese actors.
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So the Chinese are using the "Pompeo Method" not hard work,ingenuity,INNOVATION to accomplish this???BTW a small thing :where can I get the whale logo plush toy mascot ?I want 3 -2 for my little nieces and 1 for me(never mind what wife thinks)
 
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Temstar said:
I was reading someone's thread on X where he was doing a deep dive into why DeekSeek R1 went viral and I think he had a good point. Besides the technical merits of the model he noticed (and I concur) that there is significant amount of schadenfreude in seeing OpenAI get what's coming. If you just do a search on DeepSeek on youtube you can see all the videos taking that schadenfreude tone talking about how it dropped a bomb on the sharemarket and is smashing the AI bro oligarch. The guy's theory is there is nascent class conscious emerging in the US which understand the big tech oligarchs are in alignment with the government (demonstrated all the more clearly during Trump's inauguration and Stargate) intent on creating a techno-feudal society straight out of Cyberpunk 2077. DeepSeek due to its open source nature just happens to fit the Robin Hood image well, hence why ordinary people identify with it much more than the big AIs. The fact that this narrative slots right in with the "oligarch intend to replace us with H1B Indians" and XHS refugees thinking China is a socialist worker utopia are also extra bonus.

Thus he points out any argument based on DeepSeek "stealing" from OpenAI in distilling their model won't catch on with the common man and will be ridiculed instead, since stealing from the rich and giving it to the poor is precisely what Robin Hood is meant to do.
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They're trying to recreate a digital enclosure movement.

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Even Trump's own mother was a refugee from the British enclosure movement that displaced millions of peasants from their traditional farms and forced them to become an urban industrial proletariat.

Interesting how the actors change but the play doesn't.
 
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China is stealing Trump's spotlight. The first few weeks after inauguration were all supposed to be about him, his EOs, building momentum for his crusade to revamp the government and international relations— now you have random small Chinese apps or firms making national headlines and stealing his sound space. He's now on the backfoot forced to respond to these crises.
 
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Ringsword said:
So the Chinese are using the "Pompeo Method" not hard work,ingenuity,INNOVATION to accomplish this???BTW a small thing :where can I get the whale logo plush toy mascot ?I want 3 -2 for my little nieces and 1 for me(never mind what wife thinks)
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They basically admitted that they are so incompetent that they got out-Pompeoed by the PRC. Talk about getting cucked.
 
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