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luminary

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The company that stole everyone’s data and made it so that every single service now requires an account to use is crying foul about data theft. I have evidence my posts have been used to train ChatGPT!
First they attack the main service provided by DeepSeek to make it inaccessible or slowed to users, so it seems inferior to OpenAI. Then they use media channels to make up BS reasons why potential new users should not use it. This is just a stopgap measure to slow the momentum: the real issue is it's open source— many individuals and institutions have downloaded it. But it takes time to duplicate and bring DS-based solutions to market.

By sowing misinformation online, they can do the same thing during COVID and crowd out the real experts. Then they will accuse DeepSeek of copyright infringement and revoke it's MIT license. Any firms worldwide caught using DeepSeek will face legal action from the United States of America.
 

Randomuser

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You might have heard about India hosting Kumbh Mela which is some Hindu religious festival they haven't done in ages. And for whatever reason it attracted controversy.

Well now its def controversial. Another stampede. 15-50 dead and 200+ injured.

Yeah Im sure this is going to make India an AI supapowah and come up with their own Deepseek soon. Jai Hind!
 

vincent

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By sowing misinformation online, they can do the same thing during COVID and crowd out the real experts. Then they will accuse DeepSeek of copyright infringement and revoke it's MIT license. Any firms worldwide caught using DeepSeek will face legal action from the United States of America.
You can’t revoke the MIT “licence” because it is adopted by DeepSeek for their codes. It is a promised by the company NOT to sue anyone that use the codes, modify the codes or make money from the codes.
 

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DeepSeek faces surging cyberattacks, US IPs among thousands targeting Chinese AI start-up​

Chinese AI start-up DeepSeek has been subjected to a series of sophisticated and large-scale cyberattacks over the past month, according to XLab, a Chinese cybersecurity firm. The attacks, which began in early January, have escalated significantly in both scale and complexity, posing unprecedented challenges to DeepSeek's operations and data security, experts from the XLab told the Global Times on Wednesday and warned that the attacks are expected to continue in the future.

The lab told the Global Times on Wednesday that there are still HTTP proxy attacks targeting DeepSeek. The monitored source IPs range from hundreds to thousands, most of which are located in the US, Singapore, the Netherlands, Germany, and domestically, according to XLab.

DeepSeek on Tuesday launched a new open-source multimodal model Janus-Pro, an upgraded version of its earlier Janus model, which significantly enhances multimodal understanding and visual generation capabilities. Earlier in January the company released the latest open-source model DeepSeek-R1, which has achieved an important technological breakthrough - using pure deep learning methods to allow AI to spontaneously emerge with reasoning capabilities.

In her first press briefing on Tuesday (local time), US Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt while talking about DeepSeek, a Chinese artificial intelligence company that develops open-source large language models, said that as per US President Trump, this is a wake up call for American AI.

DeepSeek reportedly released an announcement on Tuesday saying that its online services had recently been subjected to large-scale malicious attacks. To ensure continued service, the company had temporarily restricted registration methods other than those with +86 mobile phone numbers.

The Global Times reporter tried to open the API (Application Programming Interface) platform of DeepSeek Wednesday morning, but the website displays a notice saying that the platform is undergoing maintenance and upgrade and that it's currently inaccessible.

DeepSeek has been subjected to large-scale and sustained DDoS attacks since January 3 or 4, and the methods escalated on January 27 and 28, significantly increasing the difficulty of defense, making it more effective, and even impacting registration access, according to XLab.

In addition to DDoS attacks, analysis has revealed a large number of password brute-force attacks. DeepSeek's AI services and data are undergoing unprecedented security challenges, according to the XLab's report.

XLab noted in its report to the Global Times that the changes in methods made it harder to defend against the attacks. The laboratory has been closely monitoring the network attacks since DeepSeek's launch and has found that the attacks can be divided into three phases:

In the first phase, on January 3, 4, 6, 7, and 13, suspected HTTP proxy attacks were observed. During this period, XLab detected a large number of proxy requests attempting to connect to DeepSeek, likely indicative of HTTP proxy attacks.

During phase two on January 20 and from January 22 to 26, the attack methods shifted to SSDP and NTP reflection amplification. During this time, XLab found that the main attack methods were SSDP and NTP reflection amplification, with a small number of HTTP proxy attacks. Generally, defending against SSDP and NTP reflection amplification attacks is simpler and easier to clean up.

In the last phase on January 27 and 28, the number of attacks surged, and the methods shifted to application layer attacks. Starting on the 27th, XLab identified that the main attack method changed to HTTP proxy attacks, which simulate normal user behavior. Compared to classic SSDP and NTP reflection amplification attacks, the difficulty of defense has significantly increased, making these attacks more effective.

XLab noted that the peak of the attacks on January 28 occurred between 03:00 and 04:00 Beijing time, corresponding to 14:00 to 15:00 Eastern Standard Time. This time window indicates that the attacks have cross-border characteristics and XLab said it may not rule out the possibility of targeted strikes against the availability of overseas services.

Additionally, starting at 03:00 on January 28, the DDoS attacks were accompanied by a large number of brute-force attacks. All the IPs involved in the brute-force attacks originated from the US. XLab's data indicates that half of these IPs are VPN exits, suggesting that this may be related to DeepSeek's restrictions on overseas mobile users.

Security experts from XLab said this large-scale attack is not an isolated incident. In recent years, cyberattacks targeting high-tech enterprises have become severe. The motivations of attackers are complex, ranging from commercial competition to attempts to steal core technology data, and even include hacker organizations with national backgrounds attempting to hinder the development of China's high-tech industry through attacks.

From attacks against Black Myth: Wukong to DeepSeek, the attacks they have encountered demonstrated that as China continues to rise in the field of high technology, malicious attacks from foreign hackers are also increasing. These attacks can lead to serious consequences such as service interruptions and data breaches, and they may also negatively impact China's technological image and international competitiveness. So the top priority [for China] now is to strengthen cybersecurity protection, XLab experts told the Global Times.

+3 phase attack since early Jan.
In the first phase, on January 3, 4, 6, 7, and 13, suspected HTTP proxy attacks were observed
During phase two on January 20 and from January 22 to 26, the attack methods shifted to SSDP and NTP reflection amplification.
In the last phase on January 27 and 28, the number of attacks surged, and the methods shifted to application layer attacks
January 28, the DDoS attacks were accompanied by a large number of brute-force attacks. All the IPs involved in the brute-force attacks originated from the US.
the difficulty of defense has significantly increased, making these attacks more effective.

Seems like the US war mongers were also panicking about Black Myth.
From attacks against Black Myth: Wukong to DeepSeek, the attacks they have encountered demonstrated that as China continues to rise in the field of high technology, malicious attacks from foreign hackers are also increasing.
 

Eventine

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Indians have made a career out of bashing China. Understand, this is what gets them views on social media from both Indians and Westerners - and the trick is, because colonial English is their main language, you get to hear about it, where if a Japanese or Korean or Arab were doing it, it'd be in their own corner of the internet and you'd have to dig to find it.
 

coolgod

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Indians have made a career out of bashing China. Understand, this is what gets them views on social media from both Indians and Westerners - and the trick is, because colonial English is their main language, you get to hear about it, where if a Japanese or Korean or Arab were doing it, it'd be in their own corner of the internet and you'd have to dig to find it.
That's true, I know where to find Japanese or Korean copium, but where do you find Arab copium? besides pmc ofc /s
 

Randomuser

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Indians have made a career out of bashing China. Understand, this is what gets them views on social media from both Indians and Westerners - and the trick is, because colonial English is their main language, you get to hear about it, where if a Japanese or Korean or Arab were doing it, it'd be in their own corner of the internet and you'd have to dig to find it.
Don't get me wrong. From time to time I browse Naver and all those sites so I know Korea/Japan bashing.

But you given how their well being is actually threatened by China, their level of seething is still not as unhinged as India. Not as openly at least. Maybe its because they have their own things to be proud of so they can still focus on those. Or maybe they know since their stuff came from China anyway and they are bigger so whatever.

India on the other hand really is something. They're already having enough problems with all their neighbours hating them now (one of them has nukes btw) and they are still trying to pick a fight with China. I believe a lot of it stems from the jai hind mentality that they think they are the best since ancient times and the existence of China who was in much deeper shit but still recovered faster destroyed that illusion. Btw this isn't a Modi only thing. Zhou Enlai said Nehru was more arrogant and unpleasant than people who actually wanted him dead.
 
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