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Interesting that about 90% of Russian energy exports go to China and India. Western attempts to limit their energy export and revenue is simply futile. China will give them the diplomatic language of no and the Indians will shove a middle finger if they tried to strong arm them.
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India is actually the biggert problem for the West. The West already know China and Russia have a relationship with no limit. But for the West, India is like WTF! Why is India bankrolling the Russians???
 
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Nick las said:
  • Retired US Navy Adm. James Stavridis says China isn't ready to fight the US in the next 10 years.
  • "If we ended up in a war with China, it wouldn't be just the US and China," Stavridis said.
  • Stavridis said US allies such as Japan and South Korea would come to their aid if war breaks out.
China wouldn't be able to fight the US if war were to break out within the next decade, said a former NATO supreme allied commander.

"China, in my estimation, will not be ready to take on the US in a very mature way for about 10 years," retired US Navy Adm.
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Stavridis had served as NATO chief from 2009 to 2013. Before taking the helm of NATO, he was the Commander of the US Southern Command from 2006 to 2009, overseeing military operations in Latin America.


In 2021, Stavridis co-authored a novel titled "
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." The book is a fictional account of a war between the US and China over the South China Sea.
Stavridis gave his assessment of China's military capabilities when host Michael Medved asked if a US-China war would break out before 2034.

"Even though China is building a massive fleet, even though they're acting very aggressively, they're not ready yet to line up all that they need to take on the US Pacific Fleet," Stavridis said.

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revealed that China's shipbuilding capacity is
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than the US.

But this, Stavridis argues, would be inconsequential given the strength of US military alliances.

"If we ended up in a war with China, it wouldn't be just the US and China. We have treaty allies who are sworn to come and be a part of a military campaign like that. That's Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand," Stavridis said.

"So that's a lot of firepower when you kind of put it all together," he continued.

Stavridis told Medved that such deterrence would give the US "a bit of a grace period" to strengthen its military further while easing bilateral tensions through diplomacy.


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I know y'all are laughing cus it sounds like a fat idiot blowing smoke up his own ass but what I read was that this retired US Admiral says that in just short 10 year period, China's military will be too much for America to handle, even in the most ideal imaginative situation of all of its puppets going in full support without self-preservation. That's a big endorsement and encouragement. To say that again, he is of the belief that now, America, the country that's supposed to be the world's strongest, can hold China off... if it had 12 other countries helping it - but he has no confidence that even with a busload of goons, the US can pull that off 10 years into the future.

And he's not even factoring in that 10 years later, with Ukraine's stamina and NATO's support likely completely depleted and in surrender, big ol' Russia might be ready for some payback. All that freshly ramped up military production and war fervor and no Ukraine to take it out on anymore... what is this newly woken bear going to gnaw on?
 
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Explains now why the Anglo press were waxing lyrical about “state backed piracy” and “privateers” ever since the Yinhe incident;

Filipino elites evidently would prefer to build and live in a world where Asians are forever slaves to white westerners. This state of affairs is a natural result of their efforts.
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If the Chinese will Co-opt them, they will change their political color as fast as the seasons permit... Lol

Just look at those Spanish origin oligarchs, they are able to adopt and had become fluent english speakers. And they will soon learn to speak Chinese as China Rise is so obvious and they don't want the Taipans to take over.
 
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Arij Javaid

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manqiangrexue said:
I know y'all are laughing cus it sounds like a fat idiot blowing smoke up his own ass but what I read was that this retired US Admiral says that in just short 10 year period, China's military will be too much for America to handle, even in the most ideal imaginative situation of all of its puppets going in full support without self-preservation. That's a big endorsement and encouragement. To say that again, he is of the belief that now, America, the country that's supposed to be the world's strongest, can hold China off... if it had 12 other countries helping it - but he has no confidence that even with a busload of goons, the US can pull that off 10 years into the future.

And he's not even factoring in that 10 years later, with Ukraine's stamina and NATO's support likely completely depleted and in surrender, big ol' Russia might be ready for some payback. All that freshly ramped up military production and war fervor and no Ukraine to take it out on anymore... what is this newly woken bear going to gnaw on?
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What the ukraine war has shown us that weapon production capacity is the single most important component of any warfare. China's production capacity even exceeds Russia. It can build ships and missiles at a much faster rate than any other country.
 
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The author is puffing up some imperial NATO delusion that nobody is really going to agree with. Your technology, trade, and financial policies will be dictated within the imperial NATO senate.
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Nick las said:
  • Retired US Navy Adm. James Stavridis says China isn't ready to fight the US in the next 10 years.
  • "If we ended up in a war with China, it wouldn't be just the US and China," Stavridis said.
  • Stavridis said US allies such as Japan and South Korea would come to their aid if war breaks out.
China wouldn't be able to fight the US if war were to break out within the next decade, said a former NATO supreme allied commander.

"China, in my estimation, will not be ready to take on the US in a very mature way for about 10 years," retired US Navy Adm.
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said in an interview on
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, which aired on Wednesday.

Stavridis had served as NATO chief from 2009 to 2013. Before taking the helm of NATO, he was the Commander of the US Southern Command from 2006 to 2009, overseeing military operations in Latin America.


In 2021, Stavridis co-authored a novel titled "
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." The book is a fictional account of a war between the US and China over the South China Sea.
Stavridis gave his assessment of China's military capabilities when host Michael Medved asked if a US-China war would break out before 2034.

"Even though China is building a massive fleet, even though they're acting very aggressively, they're not ready yet to line up all that they need to take on the US Pacific Fleet," Stavridis said.

China has the
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, with over 355 vessels in its fleet, according to a 2021
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. In July,
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revealed that China's shipbuilding capacity is
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than the US.

But this, Stavridis argues, would be inconsequential given the strength of US military alliances.

"If we ended up in a war with China, it wouldn't be just the US and China. We have treaty allies who are sworn to come and be a part of a military campaign like that. That's Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand," Stavridis said.

"So that's a lot of firepower when you kind of put it all together," he continued.

Stavridis told Medved that such deterrence would give the US "a bit of a grace period" to strengthen its military further while easing bilateral tensions through diplomacy.


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So this fool is saying that in a one on one fight, the USA will lose unless they have many nations to help them like in Ukraine just now but in such a scenario that this happens, wouldn’t that mean the Russia will ultimately get involved if China is going to lose on the off chance that this idiots fantasy does occur (because they will be next as per Lindsay Graham). Also given that it basically requires billions of dollars to send 2 carriers to the Middle East and if they do plan to fight China in the pacific, the cost of that endeavour would bankrupt the USA in almost a few days due to mobilisation and material cost requires to fight such a war, especially with there weapon stockpile in a bind due to the two wars that is being fought right now. In also honesty, the USA are a bunch of pussies if they need allies to fight any one nation like seriously, they literally lost their balls whether figuratively or literally (don’t ask how)
 
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ansy1968

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So this fool is saying that in a one on one fight, the USA will lose unless they have many nations to help them like in Ukraine just now but in such a scenario that this happens, wouldn’t that mean the Russia will ultimately get involved if China is going to lose on the off chance that this idiots fantasy does occur (because they will be next as per Lindsay Graham). Also given that it basically requires billions of dollars to send 2 carriers to the Middle East and if they do plan to fight China in the pacific, the cost of that endeavour would bankrupt the USA in almost a few days due to mobilisation and material cost requires to fight such a war, especially with there weapon stockpile in a bind due to the two wars that is being fought right now. In also honesty, the USA are a bunch of pussies if they need allies to fight any one nation like seriously, they literally lost their balls whether figuratively or literally (don’t ask how)
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Two wars is not enough, they have the wherewithal to finance a third one, just ask Janet Yellen.... Lol
 
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