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emblem21

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Reason not to fight for the empire. Become wounded and down on life? You are treated less than human by the pro-law/pro-military people

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Hmmmm. Now we can see that in the event of a war against the USA, we can see instead of loyal soldiers who will be willing to fight to protect the nation, we will have she males or he females fighting like sissy’s or a lot of veterans who would rather just get it over with, lead by a bunch of cowardly red necks who think that they dollars will save them but instead will jailed forever and have their fortunes seized or worse so that the world doesn’t need to subsidize a bunch of lazy pigs who get off on the deaths of innocent people anymore
 
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Chevalier

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So after the US builds their footing into the space industry with state funding is when they start demanding everyone else to stop investing into that industry. What a surprise. They want a monopoly since private funding will never provide enough cash for the company to stay alive long enough. SpaceX wouldn’t be alive without that state money.
The anglos are the pussiest hegemons in human history; hell, the Romans who they try to ape and emulate were at least honest about national interests but that’s what happens when a mercantile race of mealy mouth cowards get a once in a lifetime trump card of unipolarity. Their response to competition isn’t to treat competition as a fact of life and use it to empower and better themselves- rather, their national response is Tonya Harding. This speaks to the inherent inferior character of the national Anglo leadership compared to more noble leaders of other cultures.
 

AssassinsMace

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CAMP DAVID, Maryland, Aug 18 (Reuters) - At a Camp David summit on Friday, the United States, South Korea and Japan will deepen military and economic ties as the allies seek to project unity in the face of China's rise and nuclear threats from North Korea.

U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan told a Camp David news briefing the meeting would announce "significant steps" to enhance trilateral security cooperation, including a commitment to consult each other in times of crisis.

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It's no coincidence that this happens right before the BRICS summit.
 

james smith esq

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The anglos are the pussiest hegemons in human history; hell, the Romans who they try to ape and emulate were at least honest about national interests but that’s what happens when a mercantile race of mealy mouth cowards get a once in a lifetime trump card of unipolarity. Their response to competition isn’t to treat competition as a fact of life and use it to empower and better themselves- rather, their national response is Tonya Harding. This speaks to the inherent inferior character of the national Anglo leadership compared to more noble leaders of other cultures.
Well, you do know what Julius Caesar did when he landed in the British Isles, right?
 

ficker22

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Stop it. At this time you have been proven wrong and wrong again you are grabbing irrelevant information and changing topics. I proved NATO partners do not control key resources or have bigger economic outputs. I listed resources generated, consumed, industrial output, industrial consumption, and scientific output. You gave the ICT market share. First off, that is still under "service demands are bullshit because they pay more for same shit without growing the economy". Second that is not representative of economy size, a shift of your goal post. Third, giving you benefit of doubt here, let's say ICT is representative of economy, what is there to stop China from updating windows or pirate them? Will the economy be in shambles if denied of the software? The answer is no. Next thing you know you will be saying US has more social media share therefore bigger economy.
Where have I been proven wrong again...? Outside of industrial output (and its proxies, raw material consumption / electricity consumption), there is no metric in which China + partners is equal to NATO + partners.

And even in industrial output, China + partners are barely even with NATO + partners. You realize Japan and South Korea are in that group, yes? And that Russia isn't even in the top 10?

For scientific output, China's share among top quality papers is any where from 23% to 27%, depending on the source. But that is not comparable to the Western alliance. You can look at the raw data here:
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. China is at the top, but the US is a close second, and if you combine the other countries of the Western alliance on the list, they remain dominant.

So yes, China has overtaken the US, but just the US, not the Western alliance - beating the US is not enough and has never been enough.

One example of Kazakhstan not extridate dissidents does not invalidate its close relation with Russia. As a CSTO member they are in military alliance same as NATO equivalent. During the protest Russia deployed military units into the country. That is not something a random third party country allows. Using your logic we may as well remove Hungary out of NATO because they are not 100% on board with Ukraine stuff. Or removing every NATO member who did not donate to Ukraine.

From failure to read simple map size to shifting goal post this is getting embarrassing.

Kazakhstan is in military alliance with Russia? Then what military aid have they sent to Russia? What equipment have they donated, what support have they provided, what sanctions have they violated for the sake of Russia?

Hungary is sympathetic to Russia, sure, and one could argue its membership in the Western alliance is merely symbolic. But it's still doing the minimum warranted by its alliance treaty. By contrast, Kazakhstan hasn't done a thing for Russia.

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Since the outbreak of war in Ukraine, however, many in Russia have regarded Kazakhstan’s actions as being unworthy of an ally. It has adhered to Western sanctions against Russia, and in an appearance at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in June, in the presence of President Vladimir Putin, Tokayev stated that Kazakhstan would not be recognizing the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics.”

Kazakhstan’s defiant rhetoric has been backed up by action, with Kazakh authorities sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine and maintaining
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with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Russian military propaganda symbols have been
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in public places in Kazakhstan; the May 9 Victory Day parade was
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; and official approval was even given for an
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in Almaty. When Kazakh oil being shipped through Russia ran into unexpected difficulties, therefore, many wondered if this was Russia exacting its revenge.

Kazakhstan is acting more like a NATO partner than a Russian ally, and what's actually embarrassing is you refusing to acknowledge this simple fact - which is that China's partners are incredibly weak, while the Western alliance outside of the US, contrary to popular belief, is quite strong. Japan + South Korea + EU + Canada + Australia + UK are a formidable group in their own right, comparable in nearly every metric to the US. So it's like fighting two United States, which head to head, is impossible even for China.
 
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