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Biden doubted Harris' election chances​

President Biden hesitated to drop his re-election campaign in part because he and his senior advisers worried that Vice President Kamala Harriswasn't up to taking on Donald Trump, according to three Biden aides familiar with recent talks about his plans.
Why it matters: Biden, 81, ultimately decided to withdraw under pressure from the party and endorsed Harris, but his private anxieties reflect broader questions among some Democratic leaders about Harris as their nominee this November.

Driving the news: This next week will be critical for Harris, 59, to prove doubters wrong as she moves quickly to try to clear the field of potential challengers for the Democratic nomination.

  • Biden, Bill and Hillary Clinton and many Democratic lawmakers quickly endorsed Harris, but others — including former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and former President Barack Obama — did not immediately do so.
  • "We will be navigating uncharted waters in the days ahead," Obama said in a statement. "But I have extraordinary confidence that the leaders of our party will be able to create a process from which an outstanding nominee emerges."
Zoom in: Harris' time as vice president has been occasionally rocky, defined in part by large staff turnover, retreating from politically risky responsibilities, and mocking from some Beltway insiders.

  • Much of Harris' staff has turned over in the past 3½ years.
  • About half of the vice president's staff is paid by the Senate, which requires regular disclosures. Of the 47 Harris staffers listed in 2021, only five still worked for her as of this spring, according to the disclosures. Her full staff list is not publicly disclosed.
  • During Obama's first term, then-Vice President Biden had far more staff stability, as 17 of 38 of his aides stayed with him over a similar period, according to the disclosures for staff paid by the Senate.
Former Harris aides told Axios the high turnover is partly because of how the vice president treats her staff.

  • Some former aides said Harris had high standards that some did not want to keep up with, but others felt that she frequently grilled them the way she grilled Trump officials, such as then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, when she represented California in the U.S. Senate.
  • Former aides often refer to it as Harris' "prosecuting the staff."
During the 2020 campaign, Biden aides recall watching Harris interrogate her then-chief of staff Karine Jean-Pierre to the point that it made others uncomfortable.

  • After the election, Jean-Pierre moved to the White House's press team.
  • A person familiar with the matter said Biden told Jean-Pierre that she was only "on loan" during the campaign and that her move to the White House was always part of the plan.
The intrigue: The relationship between the vice president's office and the West Wing has often been tense.

  • White House aides sometimes felt Harris wasn't a team player and stayed away from any task with risk.
  • But some Harris aides felt that the White House, particularly top aide Anita Dunn, wasn't helpful to the vice president.
  • At times, Harris aides suspected Biden's team didn't want to give Harris opportunities to shine to avoid her being seen as a viable alternative to Biden ahead of his re-election bid.
Even so, Dunn worked to elevate Harris during Biden's campaign, particularly with Harris' work in pushing to defend abortion rights.

  • In response to questions for this article, Harris' chief of staff Lorraine Voles said in a statement: "Anita is a supportive colleague who works closely every day with the Office of the Vice President."
The tensions between the Biden and Harris staffs could get personal, however.

  • Some Harris senior aides told others they resented how Biden's team got frustratedwith the optics of Meena Harris, the vice president's niece, publishing a children's book just before Biden's inauguration — but then celebrated when Hunter Biden published his book months later.
  • Voles added that Biden and Harris' many achievements in the president's term were "possible in part due to the hard work of the White House staff who view themselves as one team."
  • But some Democrats found the Biden team's quiet trashing of Harris ironic, given that they had complained for the past decade about how Obama aides had done the same thing to Biden when he was vice president.

Zoom out: Some of the tensions between the Biden and Harris teams are because the principals are very different people, aides to both told Axios.

  • Biden is a white Irish Catholic man who learned politics by trying to shake every hand in the small state of Delaware.
  • Harris, 22 years younger, is a multiracial woman who worked her way up in the much larger state of California, where political races often are won by how much money you can raise.
  • There are personality differences as well: Harris is much more attuned to the pop culture of movies and music, while Biden rarely engages with pop culture in that way.
Between the lines: Harris has been cautious and reluctant to participate in events that weren't tightly controlled, Harris and Biden aides said.

  • In 2022, the White House internally pushed Harris to be the headliner for D.C.'s traditional Gridiron Dinner, but she resisted. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo did it instead.
  • Harris has faced race-baiting from some conservatives, and at times has focused on critical coverage of her in ways aides have found unhelpful — like when she has watched Fox News' "The Five."
In April 2022, Harris was the guest for a dinner at D.C. news mogul David Bradley's home — a salon-style event Bradley hosts with Washington journalists and newsmakers.

  • Harris' anxiety about the dinner was such that her staff held a mock dinner beforehand, with staffers playing participants, according to two people familiar with the event.
  • Harris aides even considered including wine in the mock prep so Harris could practice with a glass or two.
  • They ultimately decided against it.
The other side: In endorsing Harris, Biden said that "my very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my vice president. And it's been the best decision I've made."

  • White House communications director Ben LaBolt added that Harris "has been incredibly loyal and dedicated."
  • Rachel Palermo, Harris' former deputy communications director, told Axios that Harris "has high standards because she is well prepared" and that "she is an incredible legal mind."
  • Carmel Martin, Harris' former domestic policy adviser, added: "I never felt grilled by the vice president. I think she holds high standards for her staff but she is also a great boss and mentor."
  • White House aides sometimes felt Harris wasn't a team player and stayed away from any task with risk.
Harris' time as vice president has been occasionally rocky, defined in part by large staff turnover, retreating from politically risky responsibilities, and mocking from some Beltway insiders.

So would Harris be better to reduce global tensions? Though I doubt it.
 

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They really saved the best for last — this is the biggest clusterfuck I’ve seen from the Biden administration this far.
Yet another crisis that helps to distract the USA in their determination to confront China. The USA spent almost 2 decades trying to pivot to China but they simply cannot do so because whether is Americans being stupid or simply divine intervention, the USA simply cannot get it done no matter what. It won’t be a stretch to say that the USA is going to have even more crisis moving forward which means that they simply will never get a chance to even matter to China from now into the future. I wonder if Taiwan and the Philippines are getting a good look at this, this is the ally they have chosen and for a lack of a better word, they suck balls so really, emotional damage all around, they would wish to go back a few months back because no amount of copium is going to save them from a near permanent breakdown, I mean in Taiwan, they have anchorman (movie which funny enough demonstrates Americans stupid news culture for what it truly is quite well) levels of street fights happening in friggen parliament of all places almost regularly and without shame. They honestly should be lined up and shot in the balls for being complete embarrassments to the world
 

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Just insane levels of intrigue and backstabbing within ADC Politburo Standing Committee factional struggles.

The biggest democrats are still sitting on the sidelines. At this point, I am not sure what they are expecting to achieve.

but others — including former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and former President Barack Obama — did not immediately do so.
 

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So would Harris be better to reduce global tensions? Though I doubt it.
BBC News:

Democratic Party of America (DPA) politburo SecGen, President and Commander in Chief, the elderly Supreme Leader Josef Biden, has been ousted from power by his own party in favor of Vice President Kamala Harris who he has shared a contentious working relationship with. Mr. Biden has secretly confided to other top officials that he doubts the ability of Harris to maintain the DPA's iron grip on power in the face of increasing unrest due to mismanagement of COVID, declining life expectancy, demographic decline, a poor economic outlook and high inflation.

Harris, a member of the California faction of the DPA, has a deep background with internal security forces in her former role as chief of prosecution in her seat of power in San Francisco, a city that has been troubled by high rates of drug use, homelessness and street violence under her rule.

Harris is said to have a volatile temper, with 90% of the staffers who worked with her at the start of her vice presidency having been purged within the past 3 years. She is also to have relentlessly persecuted members of the opposition using her political power.

In contrast to Josef Biden, who was known for his ability to manipulate influence networks in the northeast faction of the DPA, Harris has relied on her security background. Some are hopeful that the younger Harris, more in tune with the needs of the youth than the elderly Biden, will be a voice for reform. Others note her record in the internal security forces as a counterpoint, saying that her record is that of a hardliner.

Only time will tell how the world will respond to this monumental power shift.

FairAndUnbiased, BBC, reporting from Washington.
 

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Not even that. Japan and SK are not allowed nukes under non-proliferation rules, these are laws necessary to preserve peace in the world, since otherwise there is no way to stop Japanese resurgent fascism and SK which has a legacy of Imperial Japanese collaboration.

So nuclearization of China's close neighbors whose fate China is legally required to observe as part of post-ww2 responsibilities (to determine sovereignty of Japan as the allies see fit) would be threatened by a nuclear Japan. Hence the answer will not be nukes on Cuba or anywhere else, but interdiction of the Japanese nukes and if necessary preemptive strike on Japan.
Forget about Cuba. China is not going to fight where it is weak to where US is strong. Station nukes in Japan is a sign of weakness. US is force to fight where it is weak, where China is strong, and China could intercept it Cuban missile crisis style, and US would back down, because they know they have weak hand in confrontation. Instead of emulating failed Soviet Cuba strategy, China should station nukes in Iran, and you would see US cripple itself trying to save Israel.
 

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I don't know much about Harris, but I think the best thing going for her is that Donald Trump (much like Biden) is fairly unpopular. Her "unkown" status could play out as an advantage. We also don't know if she has any dirty laundry that hasn't been aired which could impact her run at the White House.

Politically I would imagine she would be fairly similar to Biden and pursue the same/similar policies, but who knows maybe she would implement some major changes.
 

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This is just physical evidence of a well-known concept that American presidents are puppets, controlled by others. "Biden is senile and running the country", a notable opinion shared across the world, is a half truth. The half truth being that Biden is senile; the false is (he is) running the country. If you believe a senile Biden is running a country then chances are that you are senile yourself.

The facade covering the American fascism is being dismantled every day. Damage control is growing increasingly comical.
I think it's only a matter of time before the u.s start arming s.k and Japan with nukes. China should prepare for such eventualities
the day Japan and Sk got nukes should be the day Iran has nukes as well
I think that's how China should respond
I wouldn't be surprised if they already possess tactical nukes (just like Turkey) supplied by USA.

Nukes for Iran/Cuba are weak and ineffective responses.
Nukes for Iran = Israel checkmated. Israel is the core of Zionism which is the ruling dynasty of Anglo-Saxon hegemons. They don't care if China, Korea or Japan gets nuked, or even parts of USA; Israel must be kept safe.

A nuclear Iran means Israel (and USA) can no longer force their will in the region with a superior military, but have to proceed with negotiations with Iran on every regional matter. << That is something Israel + USA have always disregarded in order to have their own way (it is also something that Israel needs to survive as a colonial project); it needs to be able to genocide, ethnic cleanse, create chaos and routine destruction without penalty.

If Europe does nationalize Chinese assets, China should respond asymmetrically. The EU is expecting retaliatory tariffs so give them something unexpected like banning exports of Chinese goods paid in Euros.
But doesn't EU have more assets inside China than vice versa? i.e. factories, plants, etc. Nationalizing those EU assets inside China would spell doom for EU. Then China will have even more "overcapacity" while EU suffers severe "undercapacity".

Yeah, and China will just watch without doing anything? Ofcourse not. China will Bomb Japan before it ever gets nuke. Look at Israels playbook of Bombing Iraq and Syrian Nuclear plants. China will absolutely not allow Japan to have Nukes.

As for South Korea, Its too close to Beijing to have Nukes as well. I think China will put enormous military pressure on South Korea to give up.
North Korea would probably invade SK first. And they also have nuclear assistance to hand out to other countries, as well as missile technology.

How do you go about measuring creativity? How how does one come to the conclusion that a US person is, in general, more creative than a Chinese person. Would the same apply the comparison between a US person and a, say UK or a German person?
If you can paint a rainbow with more shades of pink and purple, then you are more creative.
 

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So would Harris be better to reduce global tensions? Though I doubt it.

I'm not expecting much from Harris where she'll let the bureaucracy run wild. When confronted she'll issue out many of her wonderful word-salads leaving everyone baffled. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit.


The biggest democrats are still sitting on the sidelines. At this point, I am not sure what they are expecting to achieve.

They're trying to figure out how to maintain their wealth, power and lifestyle.
 
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