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Serb

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What is better, invest your nation's capital stock in some passive fictitious virtual digits on computer screens, flipping it around endlessly in a void, or have your citizens invest their life savings into starting productive businesses, that help the local community and the country way more? What benefits the elites (asset holders) vs ordinary people (real wages)? That's the question.

By the looks of the stock market, you would think that in India they live better than in China, yet the reality is far different. Indian and American stock markets (especially meme stocks like Nvidia) are the biggest bubbles in existence now.

India is like a shittier version of America, but you can't deny the similarities; Financialization, rent-seeking, services dominance in the economy, the dominance of natural resources in exports, imports of all essential manufactured products, components, tools, from China, oligarchs meddling in government and politics controlling literally all policies, deficient social mobility, inequality, divisions, heavy individualism, etc.
 
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Serb said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1801863303209124002






What is better, invest your nation's capital stock in some passive fictitious virtual digits on computer screens, "flipping" it around endlessly in a void, or have your citizens invest their life savings into starting productive businesses, that help the local community and the country way more? What benefits the elites (asset holders) vs ordinary people (real wages)? That's the question.

By the looks of the stock market, you would think that in India they live better than in China, yet the reality is far different. Indian and American stock markets (especially meme stocks like Nvidia) are the biggest bubbles in existence now.

India is like a shittier version of America, but you can't deny the similarities; Financialization, rent-seeking, services, the dominance of agriculture and natural energy in exports, imports of all essential manufactured products, components, tools, from China, oligarchs meddling in government and politics controlling literally all policies, deficient social mobility, inequality, divisions, etc.
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I mean Japan's stock market is at a all time high right now. Do you really think the Japanese want to be in this position over the 80s? Toshiba isn't even listed anymore.

People are going to realize the hard way the stock market represents misplaced hype not the actual economy. Has Crypto after all this time gotten any close to real mainstream adaption? Its gonna hurt real bad when the bubble bursts.

GameStop. AMC. Nvidia. It's so obvious something ain't right yet people haven't realized it. Imagine having everyone doing financial speculation in a country with wealth levels per person so low. Thats just asking for trouble at this point. Like a case study of what happens when you act like the west without being developed or as rich as them.
 
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Overbom

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Randomuser said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1801628375439839438

Wow who didn't see this coming? I never felt the hype of Xiaomi, Vivo or Oppo compared to Huawei and now I see why. They don't seem to have what it takes to win out in the long run. They're just trend followers without being the ones to be in front.
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Should be blocked by the Chinese gov. If India wants to steal and make its own quality phones, it can do it from scratch

Vivo, another one of the trash Chinese companies
 
9dashline

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It appears the US and it's vassals were pushing the climate change issue excessively because they wanted to replace the fossil fuels industry with their own green tech, to become the sole suppliers of the next great commodity after oil. But their industries couldn't keep pace, unable to fill that role, and worse, their archenemy became that supplier to the globe. Double failure.

Now the dilemma for them is: should we keep perpetuating climate change that we've invested so much in, which our enemy has become the global leader in, or should we create obstacles for our enemy by retracting our decades of climate change propaganda, until our own industries are up to par?

They seem to have chosen option #2. But since their domestic industry's long-term forecast in the field looks hazy, frustration has set in, calling for more aggressive widespread propaganda tactics in every field.

One thing should be clear: they..... are not interested in world development or improving the lives of humans in general. imo, they've never been interested in this endeavor; this strategy could be feasible for them in the past so long as an alternative power did not exist. Now, countries can choose (unless really corrupt) between development and slavery.
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As I detailed in the AI thread, they are pivoted to AI as the next thing to save the petrodollar hegemony, with the recent partnership with NSA and OpenAI embedding into iOS layer of all Apple devices worldwide both as a dual prong intelligence gathering apparatus on opiods and as a means to push the NVIDIA, Azure, OpenAI API as AI Service to embed, infiltrate and lock in to every layer of every application, process, service, product and workflow of everything, everywhere globally....

The thinking is, AI displaces and replaces in broad categorical strokes human intellectual and manual labor worldwide globally. Just like US dominates the smartphone OS layer and App store platform, if it too can corner the AI Api service spectrum and have the likes of US/NSA based OpenAI entrenched and baked into every software, app, service, function etc globally, then it has ultimate full total visibility, and control, and once again would get to levy a direct tax on everyone on the planet, and this time around its not settling for just merely taxing the income of people worldwide but rather displacing and converting it wholesale altogether...

This plan actually stands the highest chance to work if executed correctly.

I hope China has strategic counters already in place, CPC if you reading this, rug pull if needed, you made the right call to immediately lockdown during the Covid attack, I trust you to make the right call here as well.... if rtx cards go to $50k here in the states as a result of AR etc, then so be it
 
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9dashline said:
As I detailed in the AI thread, they are pivoted to AI as the next thing to save the petrodollar hegemony, with the recent partnership with NSA and OpenAI embedding into iOS layer of all Apple devices worldwide both as a dual prong intelligence gathering apparatus on opiods and as a means to push the NVIDIA, Azure, OpenAI API as AI Service to embed, infiltrate and lock in to every layer of every application, process, service, product and workflow of everything, everywhere globally....

The thinking is, AI displaces and replaces in broad categorical strokes human intellectual and manual labor worldwide globally. Just like US dominates the smartphone OS layer and App store platform, if it too can corner the AI Api service spectrum and have the likes of US/NSA based OpenAI entrenched and baked into every software, app, service, function etc globally, then it has ultimate full total visibility, and control, and once again would get to levy a direct tax on everyone on the planet, and this time around its not settling for just merely taxing the income of people worldwide but rather displacing and converting it wholesale altogether...

This plan actually stands the highest chance to work if executed correctly.

I hope China has strategic counters already in place, CPC if you reading this, rug pull if needed, you made the right call to immediately lockdown during the Covid attack, I trust you to make the right call here as well.... if rtx cards go to $50k here in the states as a result of AR etc, then so be it
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Lol, I work in the wearable electronics industry. You're thinking waaaay too small.
 
FriedButter

FriedButter

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Randomuser said:
I mean Japan's stock market is at a all time high right now. Do you really think the Japanese want to be in this position over the 80s? Toshiba isn't even listed anymore.

People are going to realize the hard way the stock market represents misplaced hype not the actual economy. Has Crypto after all this time gotten any close to real mainstream adaption? Its gonna hurt real bad when the bubble bursts.
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The Japanese stock market is a completely different beast than the Indian or American stock market. Their bubble cannot be burst by natural means. Before the pandemic, the BOJ (central bank) was a major shareholder in 40% of the listed Japanese companies and 85% of the companies in the Nikkei 225. During 2021, they owned 60% of the Japanese ETF market but that has bloomed to 80% in 2024 representing a 7% ownership of the entire stock market.
 
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azn_cyniq

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Overbom said:
Should be blocked by the Chinese gov. If India wants to steal and make its own quality phones, it can do it from scratch

Vivo, another one of the trash Chinese companies
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The Indian economy is like a giant black hole. India's market is large, but what can you buy with Rupees...

You could use those Rupees to hire Indians and build factories in India, but they're lazy so the products produced in those factories wouldn't be competitive outside of India...It's all so tiresome
 
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Eventine

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Overbom said:
Should be blocked by the Chinese gov. If India wants to steal and make its own quality phones, it can do it from scratch

Vivo, another one of the trash Chinese companies
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It’s funny because right above your post was the post about how India’s economy is all financialized smoke & mirror. But this is exactly what such economies do - they play the finance game to create a bunch of “value” from seemingly nothing and then use it to purchase things of actual value from hard working people like East Asians.

What’s sad is they get away with it more often than not as seen by the foreign ownership of so many Japanese and Korean companies.
 
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pmc

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Eventine said:
It’s funny because right above your post was the post about how India’s economy is all financialized smoke & mirror. But this is exactly what such economies do - they play the finance game to create a bunch of “value” from seemingly nothing and then use it to purchase things of actual value from hard working people like East Asians.

What’s sad is they get away with it more often than not as seen by the foreign ownership of so many Japanese and Korean companies.
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you think all other Manufacturing counties does not have India input?. Manufacturing is very broad term not just skilled labor on factory floor. 43,000 Indian students now in Germany. Germany stayed ahead of Japan/Korea due to integration with Europe and other labor import like from Turkey. now Germany is entering digital age. it will have more Indians. India may not need that much manufacturing consider the weather and proximity to ASEAN.
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