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pmc

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You are seriously exaggerating the “decades” components of this. The U.S., since it already is a large and wealthy economy, always has capacity in memory (Micron), foundry (Intel, GlobalFoundries), and shipbuilding (Northrop, etc). The issue with the U.S. would be that it would need to scale should an exogenous foreign shock happen. But an exogenous foreign shock would simultaneously increase the profitability of entering the sector, from both a firm and individual perspective so it would at most take a few years. See for example, how quickly supply chains unsnarled themselves and how inflation in the U.S. is back to normal after 16 months despite some very large supply shocks - Covid, Ukraine; interest rate hikes ; and large demand shocks - very large fiscal deficits.
I think you are underestimating importance of Japan and Korea. start with display technology to vehicle tires to batteries to vehicle climate control. and i highly doubt any one can make as reliable car transmission/ engines as Japanese. US cannot even replace Indian software engineers when it comes to scale let alone Japan/Korea in manufacturing and it is getting worse in things that are important for Mideast like recent air defense deals.
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what’s more: Japanese and South Korean firms export to the United States in order to make money themselves; without final American demand, those firms lack the scale to compete effectively
Japan and Korea are using American globalized labor and raw materials for there own benefit and have a sway over US.
 

Chevalier

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The only way white supremacists and wannabe white westerners like the Argentine president and Messi, are ever going to learn to respect asians is when consequences comes to give them painful reminders.
kinda strange these anglos, they bitch to congress about enacting trade barriers against Chinese firms and suck up to Chinese consumers for the Chinese market, its high time these white westerners learn that what comes around, goes around.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Capacity is a problem for sure, so if TSMC USA and Intel are adding sub 10nm capacity, that would only be assuredly fully utilized (in the Taiwan go boom scenario).

It wasn’t an Exynos only problem
Snapdragon 888 was bad
RTX 30 had issues with Samsung
Snapdragon 8G1 had problems (but that was a bad design)
Samsung is trying to get ahead with 3nm GAAFET, but no major takers yet
It is very hard to predict demand because nobody uses a chip as the final product, it has to be integrated into the entire supply chain with memory, MEMS/sensors, RF, power, packaging, display, etc. If any 1 component is missing, final product cannot be sold. See finished Fords sitting on the factory floor with everything except like a few microprocessors throughout 2021.

TSMC USA is a shell right now and not sure if Intel Foundry is actually going to be successful or if it's just in house chips. Is any major client using Intel Foundry? It's very different to run an IDM vs. running a foundry.

My point was, SMIC and Samsung can still supply the entire rest of the world outside NA on FinFET if TSMC is... unavailable.
 

MixedReality

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The only way white supremacists and wannabe white westerners like the Argentine president and Messi, are ever going to learn to respect asians is when consequences comes to give them painful reminders.

kinda strange these anglos, they bitch to congress about enacting trade barriers against Chinese firms and suck up to Chinese consumers for the Chinese market, its high time these white westerners learn that what comes around, goes around.

There is a section of the South American population that think they are part of the West. It’s the Melei and Bolsanaro crowd. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if Messi was part of this crowd. Compare him to Maradona. For example, Maradona was a big supporter of Palestine.

This stunt by Messi and his advisors have already backfired. It has unified Mainland China and Hong Kong. It will get worse for Messi if Chinese people start boycotting products that sponsor Messi, it will put massive pressure on these companies to choose between the vast Chinese market or an old footballer.
 

Sardaukar20

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India is not even a manufacturing rival to Vietnam. When moving some low-end manufacturing from China to Vietnam, it does make economic sense, because Vietnam can actually manufacture some of these things at more cost-competitive prices than China. Vietnam worked on making itself an objectively attractive place to setup manufacturing there.

India on the other hand was only busy with politics and talking. Apart from political convenience, India offers no objective qualities to move manufacturing there. It still cannot manufacture goods at more cost-competitive prices than China. The common Indian workforce is insufficiently educated and disciplined. It's infrastructure is a joke. Instead, you shall be urged to setup that infrastructure and educate your Indian workforce. Government policy is all over the place, and they are not gonna do anything to help you. And after all that, the Indian government is gonna come and rob you of your hard earned money, and/or arrest your executives over some arbitrary matter. India offers no actual benefit for foreign manufacturers, only political correctness.

After independence, India failed to follow in the footsteps of Australia and South Africa to leverage on its British industrial inheritance to become an industrial power. During the rise of the Asian Tigers, India failed to grab at least some of that manufacturing for itself, despite having an enormous English-speaking populace. When China was rising to become a manufacturing superpower, India had failed to rise up as a worthy alternative. Now when Cold War 2.0 had begun, India is failing yet again to compete for that manufacturing redistribution, but this time to smaller countries like Vietnam and Bangladesh. There were some wins for India, but India is still failing to become truly competitive. It is only a matter of time before these current batch of companies who moved manufacturing to India start walking out again. Nothing will truly change in India, it is already putting itself on the path to the middle-income trap.
 
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