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There's actually a fuck ton of US internally aimed Mandarin language propaganda that is 100% scrubbed from the mainland market, such as by Falun Gong, Guo Wengui, etc and it has been ramping up over the past 7 years since 2016.

They are FAR more batshit crazy than English language media, and we all know how batshit that is. We're talking stuff like justifying and simultaneously denying the genocide of Native Americans.

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There's that, there's self-hate. Plus not to mention with the way things are, wouldn't surprise me if most Chinese Americans who answered the poll had the mindset if they viewed China positively they'd get put on an FBI watchlist. Funny considering all the accusations that Chinese who respond to foreign polls do so with the CPC breathing down their neck.
 

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Newly elected Mayor Olivia Chow waves to the crowd at council chambers during her Declaration of Office Ceremony, at Toronto City Hall on July 12, 2023. Photo by Tijana Martin /The Canadian Press


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The mayor still speaks English with that Chinglish accent from Hong Kong. Everyone likes Olivia.

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There's that, there's self-hate. Plus not to mention with the way things are, wouldn't surprise me if most Chinese Americans who answered the poll had the mindset if they viewed China positively they'd get put on an FBI watchlist. Funny considering all the accusations that Chinese who respond to foreign polls do so with the CPC breathing down their neck.
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Tbh I think it's a very accurate representative of my personal experiences. The sad truth is that Chinese Americans are mostly anti-China / anti-Chinese. Imagine being this mentally cucked. I think the views are also stratified along the lines of gender as Chinese men and women are treated extremely differently.




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On views of China, those who were born in the U.S. are much less likely to hold a positive view of China than those who were born abroad (25% vs. 45%).
Among immigrants, those who have been in the U.S. longer tend to feel much less positively about China than those who immigrated more recently.
When it comes to favorability of Taiwan, U.S.-born Chinese Americans are more likely to see Taiwan favorably than Chinese immigrants (70% vs. 60%).



Few are interested in returning home.
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About 80% say they would not move to China, compared with 16% who say they would.
However, Chinese-speakers are far more willing to return. This is part of the reason why preserving cultural and linguistic heritage is critical to resisting brainwashing.
“I have high hopes for the Chinese language. For example, mainland China has become strong in power [recently], so if there are fewer opportunities in the United States, you could still go back to Hong Kong, Taiwan or mainland China. To me, even if we were born here, we ultimately do not really belong here.”

– Immigrant woman of Chinese origin, age 47 (translated from Mandarin)
 
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Tbh I think it's a very accurate representative of my personal experiences. The sad truth is that Chinese Americans are mostly anti-China / anti-Chinese. Imagine being this mentally cucked. I think the views are also stratified along the lines of gender as Chinese men and women are treated extremely differently.




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However, Chinese-speakers are far more willing to return. This is part of the reason why preserving cultural and linguistic heritage is critical to resisting brainwashing.
That is true especially since from what I've seen millenial ABCs across the board have very poor language skills, compared to Gen Z ABCs.
 
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Tbh I think it's a very accurate representative of my personal experiences. The sad truth is that Chinese Americans are mostly anti-China / anti-Chinese. Imagine being this mentally cucked. I think the views are also stratified along the lines of gender as Chinese men and women are treated extremely differently.




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However, Chinese-speakers are far more willing to return. This is part of the reason why preserving cultural and linguistic heritage is critical to resisting brainwashing.
I don't disagree with you, or the results of the polls, but remember that Americans are essentially enslaved to their mainstream media outlets. Back in 2016, most polls predicted a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton. She did win the popular vote, but Donald Trump won the general election by a significant margin. Back then, almost all of the mainstream media outlets were fervently anti-Trump, so most people were afraid to say what they really thought about Trump. That's just how it works in the United States. In order to maintain our livelihoods, most of us steer clear of politically incorrect topics.

Post-2016 China is similar to 2016 Donald Trump and early 2010s North Korea in many ways. Most people in the United States dislike China because almost all of the mainstream media outlets here are fervently anti-Chinese. However, few Americans can explain why they dislike China. They may say things like "they started COVID" or "they are authoritarian and want to take over the world" because that's what their mainstream media outlets tell them on a daily basis, but very few of them actually understand China. That's why TikTok, Shein, Temu, etc. are so popular in the United States even though their Chinese origins are widely known. Americans may regurgitate what they hear about China, but few of them actually care.

After 2016, I stopped trusting American polls on sensitive issues. I'm not saying that they're completely useless or that they can't serve as useful reference points. I'm just saying that American polls on issues that its mainstream media outlets have clearly taken a side on are not very useful.
 

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Tbh I think it's a very accurate representative of my personal experiences. The sad truth is that Chinese Americans are mostly anti-China / anti-Chinese. Imagine being this mentally cucked. I think the views are also stratified along the lines of gender as Chinese men and women are treated extremely differently.




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They need to be plugged into the Chinese ecosystem: Bilibili, Weibo, WeChat, TikTok, AliExpress, Xiaohongshu.

I also noticed a lot of "neither" or "don't know" for Vietnam, India and Philippines. It's mostly people being too polite to call them out, especially India and Philippines. Let's be honest, this alone proves viewpoints have nothing to do with human rights,. development level, entertainment industry, tech, etc.
 
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They need to be plugged into the Chinese ecosystem: Bilibili, Weibo, WeChat, TikTok, AliExpress, Xiaohongshu.

I also noticed a lot of "neither" or "don't know" for Vietnam, India and Philippines. It's mostly people being too polite to call them out, especially India and Philippines. Let's be honest, this alone proves viewpoints have nothing to do with human rights,. development level, entertainment industry, tech, etc.
Imo the reason for their answer is precisely development, since Asian Americans responding with don't know for those countries is basically saying that they're poor countries that aren't as wealthy or cool as Korea and Japan, but the American media doesn't portray them as enemies so, "no opinion, but awesome food btw."

As for the diaspora, simply put since American coverage of their nations is rather favorable as "allies" against China, they feel more comfortable saying they have favorable views of their native land.
 

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More unhinged lunacy from DC:

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This bit caught my eye:

"He said the U.S. should cripple China economically by disconnecting it from SWIFT, the international financial transaction settlement system. That, he suggested, would quickly bring China’s economy to a halt.

He said the U.S. should get "Treasury and OFAC [the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control] to socialize the concept of pressing this economic nuclear button. But if we really want to be effective, we press that button.""
This idiot is so out of touch with reality. The US still has to import goods worth hundreds of billions USDs from China every year. China would wholeheartedly welcome the US to join the CIPS to trade in yuans.
 
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