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PiSigma

"the engineer"
I can't resist the temptation to jump in. lol.

I was wondering when you guys would reach the conclusions you did above after rounds and rounds of engaging with pmc. And I'm glad you've eventually reached the same conclusions that I and others had before after engaging with him. It's usually a very frustrating experience debating him -- you feel like walking right into a rabbit hole full of cow dung.

Ignore him.
I had him on ignore list for a long time. But unblocked after Chandra got banned because needed a clown to keep me entertained.
 

KYli

Brigadier
India is still in the West's good graces has nothing to do with India being clever or democratic or being friendly. India simply is a failure from the eyes of the West that the West doesn't feel threatened by India from politically, economically, or militarily.

In addition, the West needs India to counterweight China so it has given India some slack. Just remember that Modi was sanctioned by the West not many years ago. The West was trying to explore vulnerabilities within India until the rise of China. MSM can attack India anytime if it got the get-go from the Western powers. From caste system, human rights, religious freedom, genocides, women rights, and child labors, the list can go on and on as the MSM has delicately complied a list of Indian shortcomings and have little by little fed to their general population and to the world.

In addition, I would like to point. China was treated also very softly from the West from late 70s, 80s(even after 6/4), 90s, and even 00s. It is until China has become too powerful and too advanced that the West finally can't take it anymore. But even then, the West offered China a way out that is China to give up any ambitions of high tech and forever become a low cost manufacturing bases for the West. If China agreeed with such proposal, then the West would allow China to prosper and not sanctions. That is the proposal that Trump and neoconservatives and neoliberals offer China because China without advanced technology would be a slave to the West and can be controlled.

So it is just illusion to think India was given slack due to its being a democrat and softness. India didn't get the China's treatment only because it failed to make much of progress and pose no threat to the international liberal orders and the Western hegemony.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
I posted many photos in five consecutive post commemorating the tragic earthquake in Sichuan of 2008 in the Chinese Daily photo thread.

 

In4ser

Junior Member
It’s because they hate black people more. Asians will eat this crap up and think whites like them but white people just like to use Asians to attack blacks because they think Asians are weak. Notice how the most willing Republicans are always Asians even though there are far fewer Asians than blacks or other minorities
White America is increasing a past tense. DeSantis may still be serving towards a majority White base but that demographics no long holds uncontested weight (estimated minority by 2045) as it is being diluted with fewer kids and greater intermarriage. Republicans may have been White Evangelicals but they are not as influential in the party as they once were even in Red Texas, where in Dallas years ago they used to ostracize Single Moms for being divorcees when I was growing up. A lot has changed and honestly I kind of miss them, despite being racist as they held back the new religion of wokeism SJWs from the Left.

Honestly, I don’t think there is a single unified American culture left. It’s been so lobotomized that it cannot enact a single coherent policy other than simple legislation like free money thru tax break/more government spending. All other responsibilities is simply passed along hoping someone will take care of the problems.
 

GodRektsNoobs

Junior Member
Registered Member
If China agreeed with such proposal, then the West would allow China to prosper and not sanctions.
Except China would never prosper, because without a globally competitive high-tech manufacturing industry it would be stuck in the middle income trap. It is exactly what US wants, and any self-respecting nation would never accept this.
At the current rate, China can dump all of its US Treasury holdings in about 4 years, while US' debt is spiraling out of control.
Well, this also means that it is now cheaper for US to physically exterminate holders of US debt through force than to pay it back. Expect more and more unhinged extremist behavior from US in the future.
 

BoraTas

Captain
Registered Member
I can't resist the temptation to jump in. lol.

I was wondering when you guys would reach the conclusions you did above after rounds and rounds of engaging with pmc. And I'm glad you've eventually reached the same conclusions that I and others had before after engaging with him. It's usually a very frustrating experience debating him -- you feel like walking right into a rabbit hole full of cow dung.

Ignore him.
The topic somehow always comes to Germanic engineering, aviation, Arabs and other irrelevant topics.

Yes, Mr. Garden. China cannot maintain a bilateral relationships with the Russian Federation because ''existential threat'' to the EU (which dwarfs Moscow in almost all military and economic facets except for nukes) but you can be very boniehomie with the USA which is an existential threat to the PRC. Their double standards and hypocrisy is so blatant.
This needs to be repeated again and again. The existential threat to the EU is the bloc's apparent economic unsuccess in the last 25 years while its running bureaucracy is collecting more and more powers. We see EU officials like Borrell and UVDL styling themselves as state leaders or ministers. They are not. If this trend continues common people will start questioning the utility of the EU. Half of the EU countries already have small anti-EU groups. If 2008-2023 gets repeated (IMO likely scenario) these groups will be substantial in size.
 

Phead128

Captain
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
I had him on ignore list for a long time. But unblocked after Chandra got banned because needed a clown to keep me entertained.
Same, had him on the ignore list for a long time, but had to take him off after becoming mod. Nowadays, I just skip over his post, complete gibberish ending with ..."Becuz RICH Arabs/Middle Easterners also agree and know best!" ...

Not sure if he is less Jai Russian over the past year thought.
India is still in the West's good graces has nothing to do with India being clever or democratic or being friendly. India simply is a failure from the eyes of the West that the West doesn't feel threatened by India from politically, economically, or militarily.

In addition, the West needs India to counterweight China so it has given India some slack. Just remember that Modi was sanctioned by the West not many years ago. The West was trying to explore vulnerabilities within India until the rise of China. MSM can attack India anytime if it got the get-go from the Western powers. From caste system, human rights, religious freedom, genocides, women rights, and child labors, the list can go on and on as the MSM has delicately complied a list of Indian shortcomings and have little by little fed to their general population and to the world.

In addition, I would like to point. China was treated also very softly from the West from late 70s, 80s(even after 6/4), 90s, and even 00s. It is until China has become too powerful and too advanced that the West finally can't take it anymore. But even then, the West offered China a way out that is China to give up any ambitions of high tech and forever become a low cost manufacturing bases for the West. If China agreeed with such proposal, then the West would allow China to prosper and not sanctions. That is the proposal that Trump and neoconservatives and neoliberals offer China because China without advanced technology would be a slave to the West and can be controlled.

So it is just illusion to think India was given slack due to its being a democrat and softness. India didn't get the China's treatment only because it failed to make much of progress and pose no threat to the international liberal orders and the Western hegemony.
I would also like to add that India's goal is to reverse the brain drain to West...not celebrate their best brains are CEOs of Western companies, which is the equivalent of ethnic Indian running a Princely state under British Raj. Nominal figurehead proxy, but ultimately controlled by White Masters (e.g. Board of Directors of East India Company). Indian CEOs can be fired immediately by Board of Directors for any reason, who are ultimately in control of company.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Except China would never prosper, because without a globally competitive high-tech manufacturing industry it would be stuck in the middle income trap. It is exactly what US wants, and any self-respecting nation would never accept this.
Why would former colonial masters definition for prosper for their former subjects or any countries that they deem beneath them would have the same meaning of what they behold for themselves.

Western's prosperity for China probably mean South Korea lite version of 996 and 1/3 of what the West made. Which means China needs to work 3 times as hard to receive 1/3 of what Westerns made. If they could have their way, Chinese should not be well fed from their prospective as a well fed Chinese are bad for the world and bad for climate change.
 

xypher

Senior Member
Registered Member
The topic somehow always comes to Germanic engineering, aviation, Arabs and other irrelevant topics.
Don't forget about doing a fellatio on Russia because of random shit like 1 more flight from Turkey or UAE to Russia.
If you think Indians aren't aware of this, and aren't working on Indianizing Board of Directors of Western firms, then you are really underestimating the Indians.
That approach is really futile at its core. If you think that Indians will ever be allowed into the decision-making white core in numbers to actually make a difference, then you are a bit naive. White people love hiring Asian CEOs when the companies start failing because a) most of the people who actually make it to top despite all the racism are really competent; b) if he/she fails, then they can blame the failure on CEO and say that it's those filthy immigrants who ruined their precious white companies when in reality it started crumbling long before that.

The moment China goes out of picture (won't happen), Indians will become the scapegoats and all their "soft power" in the form of immigrant community will become the target - you will see Western MSM doing hit pieces on human rights, religious freedoms, women rights, etc. in India. Meanwhile conservatives will start lashing out at the number of Indians in IT and CEO jobs, accuse them of spying and "ruining" their companies. Sad that many Indians don't understand that and think that if they gang up on China with white people, then they will become the honorary aryans.
 
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