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enroger

Junior Member
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So bro an Arms race is good for China?

If China continues current military spending it would be considered quite a leisurely spending, one more percent of GDP will result in nearly 40% jump in military spending, I would like to see US try that.

To be fair, US problem is not that they don't spend enough, it is with their entire problem with MIC and procurement issue. But then again, if the US can solve their MIC issue would they still need to fight China? If the US can rid itself of all their corruption and truly become a nation for the people would they still need to fight China? Food for thoughts
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
So you think, regarding the military balance in Asia-Pacific, China's position won't improve in the 2030s at the rate we see today?

I'd like to hear your opinion because, on this forum, I wrote things like this

This is a textbook example of why Opsec is so useful and powerful for the PLA, especially when it comes to experimental stuff still in the pipeline.

Western politicians and most of their most vocal analysts cannot help but look down on the Chinese. Thus it’s very hard if not impossible to convince them that China is working on super advanced next gen stuff, because even if there is credible intelligence of such, the politicians will simply chose to not believe it.

It’s only when China demonstrates actual operational capabilities that are basically indisputable that the politicians finally take notice, and promptly panic since the actual capabilities are so much more advance than what they expected the incapable-of-innovation-backward-Chinese to be able to achieve.

The 2030 timeframe is when the ‘hard counters’ for currently deployed PLA systems might be available by. There is no real hard counter for assets the PLA might be bringing online themselves by 2030 because China isn’t helpfully mapping out their planned future systems for the US to develop counters for. There might be intelligence on what China might be working on, but it’s not going to be anywhere close to 100% accurate or complete, with also the possibility China might deliberately feed the US false intel to get them to waste time and money developing counters to imaginary systems, so good luck convincing the politicians to allocate funds for those counters.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
If this was happening in China, we would be getting endless spam of youtube videos about how this time China is totally collapsing for realsies, unlike the previous 50 times.
This is the collapse of Silicon Valley. On the other hand traditional US economy in farming, mining, oil, steel and fossil fuel cars will be OK. US economy natural size is probably something like $16 trillion since little physical growth has happened after 2018 or so.

there will be a correction.
 

Biscuits

Major
Registered Member
By 2035 China most likely has 1000 plus nukes, the u.s has always avoided conventional conflicts with a state that can impose MAD like Russia, so even if the americans position improve, i don't see how they will risk MAD over taiwan
This is an absurd statement because if MAD didn't exist and haven't existed for a long time already, US would have tried an attack, given that China is a literal existential threat and has been known as one ever since 1991.

China has broadly speaking more modern nuclear tech than US. Government strategic ambiguity means nothing in the face of a country that is a non signatory on any arms limitation treaty, has among the most readily accessible nuclear materials and globally leading warhead delivery tech.

US will attack and risk MAD with China because unlike with Russia, the potential reward is much higher. If US wins, they will have free reign to reshape the world order as they see fit.
 

BMUFL

Junior Member
Registered Member
Just an update for the many people here who have no doubt been awaiting the outcome of this match with baited breath:

After 5 days of play the fourth test between India and Australia has ended in a draw, with India scoring 571-9 and Australia 480 & 175-2. The glory of cricket, folks. :cool:
*glance at "close of play" list*

KEKW Australia got outplayed by India.
 
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