So I want to know, who are the tigers and who are the monkeys?
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AUKUS was a bad deal. Unless they are shooting for second hand 688i classes they won't get their subs until 2040s. And regardless of what's going to happen, most subsystems will be blackboxes to Australia. Australian nationalists (who are almost always anti-everything non-Western) had a pipedream of getting 8 customized Virginias or customized Astutes before 2040. They also dreamed of ToT and local assembly. Whatever they smoke I don't want it. It seems it is quite harsh on the mind.
The deal has also spent massive amounts of political capital. It is a huge part of Biden admin's failure to deepen relations with Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam. And French presence in West Pacific has decreased a lot.
But according to some real experts and hard core wannabe giga Chad pretend nationalists on this forum and elsewhere that China needs is Soft power or some s..t
Country that cant make passenger cars to try their hands at nuclear submarines, more at 11.
Tankies were right again, as always. To repeat:
- A good chunk of American influence is generated through tacit mechanisms
- The USA wants you to "liberalize" and "democratize" your country because it means they will get to lobby your politicians, set up as many NGOs as they want, have the CIA run amok, fund religious sects and have their corporations milk your country.
We are unfair to the CPC in this forum. They were naive about economic determinism but they never gave unrestricted access to the USA for good will cookie points.
- A good chunk of American influence is generated through tacit mechanisms
- The USA wants you to "liberalize" and "democratize" your country because it means they will get to lobby your politicians, set up as many NGOs as they want, have the CIA run amok, fund religious sects and have their corporations milk your country.
We are unfair to the CPC in this forum. They were naive about economic determinism but they never gave unrestricted access to the USA for good will cookie points.
Why jungle not garden?
Sure, calling your major gas supplier a "terrorist state" is indeed a very good idea...
But just like this Chinese phrase "有谁会跟钱过不去" (who would have trouble with money itself), as long as the EU continue paying thick cases of ka-ching to Russia-and-friends for the oil and gas hidden underneath Russian soil, why complaint?
Russians aren't the ones who risk freezing this winter; the Europeans are.
Position of strength.
