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Overbom said:

I concluded the same.
Reading the leaves, it seems that China won't give the same treatment to Russia as it did before (basicaly treating it as an equal miltary/economic/diplomatic/sphere of influence power)

The next 6-12 months are going to be interesting, I very much think we will see further signs of this happening in the near future

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China is helping Russia discreetly so that it won't be part of the trade war with the west. In return, Russia can give China some diplomatic backing. Putin acknowledging China's concerns regarding Ukraine is very helpful to promote China's position that China is neutral in the war, helping China's reputation in the west.

I don't think China has ever seen post Soviet Russia as an equal. But trading some diplomatic help from Russia for economic aid to them makes sense

Of course china treats other nations as equals. Just look at the way China treats African nations and their officials compared to US. They are not aspiring to be another US. Some people here are trying to force Western propaganda on China, making it seem like China wants Russia to be the junior partner in the strategic relationship.

This would be typical of the Western propaganda. Trying to exaggerate a disagreement in the relationship, and absolving all the shit the west has done before and during the conflict... the billions spent in aid, NATO intervention, the coup, clandestine support of Nazi elements, treating Ukraine soldiers like pawns etc

luosifen said:

Keep in mind Moscow Times isn't run by Russians or based in Russia, rather run by liberal EU types, it's equivalent to Epoch Times reporting about China.

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I don't care what Moscow Times is or isn't. As long as their news aren't fake

Russian business daily Vedomosti reported Wednesday, citing sources close to the government, that the finance ministry had told government agencies they would need to cut spending by 10% in 2023. Defense spending, however, was set to rise, Vedomosti quoted one source close to the defense ministry as saying.

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Overbom said:

I don't care what Moscow Times is or isn't. As long as their news aren't fake

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Vedomosti​

Vedomosti is a Russian-language business daily newspaper published in Moscow.
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: Ivan Yeremin (via Sapport)
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: 64,680
: 1999; 23 years ago

About


Derk Sauer is a Dutch media magnate and the founder of The Moscow Times.
Born: October 31, 1952 (age 69 years),

Same guy running Moscow Times and Vedomosti, also uses rumours of unknown credibility from anonymous sources, I'll wait for something more concrete before I draw conclusions.

For reference, the official TASS only reports that they are in the process of deciding the 2023-2025 now:

Russian budget for 2023-2025 should meet country’s priorities, challenges, Putin says​

It is reported that the current situation in the Russian economy and the outlook on its development would also be discussed at the meeting

MOSCOW, September 12. /TASS/. Russia’s budget for the next three years should meet the country’s priorities and challenges, President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting on economic issues on Monday.
"We will focus on budget projections for 2023-2025 today. It is important, considering the fact that active work on the draft federal budget is underway, with its submission to the State Duma expected soon. Naturally, this basic document should fully meet both our priorities and the challenges we are facing," he said, adding that the current situation in the Russian economy and the outlook on its development would also be discussed at the meeting.

luosifen said:

Keep in mind Moscow Times isn't run by Russians or based in Russia, rather run by liberal EU types, it's equivalent to Epoch Times reporting about China.

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They are just retelling news from Vedomosti - .

@luosifen Read that Wikipedia article you referenced, Vedomosti does not belong to this Dutch dude since 2015. Its chief editor since 2017 is a dude from the First Channel (state TV).

xypher said:

They are just retelling news from Vedomosti -

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Check my above post, Vedomosti and Moscow Times are controlled by the same guy.

luosifen said:

Check my above post, Vedomosti and Moscow Times are controlled by the same guy.

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No they are not, I referenced that in my post after I saw yours. From the same Wikipedia article:

Sanoma sold its stake in the paper to

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Ahead of a new Russian media ownership law prohibiting foreign enterprises from owning more than 20% of Russian media companies, Dow Jones and Pearson also divested their stakes in 2015 to Kudryavtsev

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Ilya Bulavinov, former head of the directorate for internet broadcasting of the state First Channel, has been serving as chief editor since 2017.

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In March 2020, Kudryavtsev and his partners,

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associate Vladimir Voronov and former

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executive Martin Pompadour, announced their intention to sell Vedomosti to two buyers: publisher of

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Konstantin Zyatkov and managing director of Arbat Capital Alexei Golubovich.

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On 29 May 2020, Vedomosti was sold to businessman Ivan Yeremin via his holding company Sapport.

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On 15 June 2020, five senior editors resigned from Vedomosti in protest to Shmarov's confirmation to editor-in-chief by the paper's board of directors.

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Some of them established an independent

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Russia designated VTimes as a "foreign agent" in May 2021, saying it was registered in the

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on 3 June 2021, VTimes announced closure of its operations on 12 June, citing operational difficulties connected with the status.

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Basically, he had to sell his stake back in 2015. Considering that its spin-off by former editors - VTimes - was instantly branded as "foreign agent", it is safe to say that Vedomosti is in good grace by the government.

Temstar said:

First Tsai with that TSMC talk and now this. I can see why Yoon got people investigating him all over the place already.

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Long live the Chip-4 Alliance!

Appix said:

The G7 trade ministers met on on 14 and 15 September. They clearly target China's economic model in their released communique after two days of discussions in Germany. Globalisation is fine but only according to their economical, political and cultural preferences.

1. Level playing field in the white mind: no use of subsidies and no state owned enterprises. When those are present the economic playing field is unfair. Targets China's mixed economic model.

2. We will develop new tools and international rules: they want to change the WTO rules book so that China will be forced to change its economic model more according to their taste: neoliberalism.

"Levelling the playing field and addressing economic coercion
We will sustain and further step up our efforts working toward a level playing field through more effective use of existing tools, as well as developing appropriate new tools and stronger
international rules and norms on nonmarket policies and practices. Our shared concerns Include unfair practices, such as all forms of forced technology transfer, intellectual property
theft, lowering of labour and environmental standards to gain competitive advantage,
market-distorting actions of state-owned enterprises, and harmful industrial subsidies, including those that lead to excess capacity.

We will also promote discussions at the WTO on how to improve transparency to shed light on and reduce challenges posed by non-market policies and practices that harm the global economy, and on modernizing the global trade
rulebook. We thank the OECD for its work in this area."

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Nobody takes these people seriously anymore.

Here's the deal. You want it or not?

After some grumbling, they buy all of the electric blankets and heaters from China.

It gets more absurd.

What about the new tech, which they don't even have.

How can they create rules, for things that do not exist for them?

Hot air. Hot air is good, keeps people warm.

"Dow Jones and Pearson also divested their stakes in 2015"

Same Pearson which divulged the 50% stake it held previously in The Economist in 2014-5?

Mr. Micklewaithe, former chief editor, is now working as some american talking head?

Pearson's head offices used to be next to the LSE.

They used to publish textbooks. I guess the bullshit business is more suited - hence the political direction it's taken since (Thanks KAL).

Shame, we had the "newspaper" for 20 odd years delivered to us in HK.

On the plus side FT is still good, unlike SCMP which now even lacks the "city" section.

But then we have Minnie Chan trawling. Or trolling. Who can tell the difference anymore.

Brave new world.