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Overbom

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Its Washington post so I would take that with a grain of salt.

“China has made clear its position on the situation in Ukraine, and on the illegal sanctions against Russia,” said a person in Beijing with direct knowledge of the discussions.
“We understand [Moscow’s] predicament. But we cannot ignore our own situation in this dialogue. China will always act in the best interest of the Chinese people.”
/thread. I trust the CPC to act in the best interest of the Chinese people. Whatever they will do in regards this matter, we can be sure that it was the best they thought they could/should do
 

Overbom

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At one point I thought their AI driving would give them a edge over other vendors but the AI driving might never happen.
Their AI system architecture is hilariously bad and short-sighted. Elon can try and gaslight us all he wants about "well, humans have 2 eyes and can navigate the road, why can't we do the same with cameras for the car?!" lol

Chinese competition is going to blow out Tesla's "autopilot" (a glorified Level 2 driver assistance system) in the coming year(s).
The newest Chinese EVs are full of all sorts of sensors to enable a true autopilot capability in the future, not the fake "only cameras will let Tesla master autopilot".

Anyone with even a knowledge about AI knows that Elon is full of hot air when he says that he doesn't need to put LiDAR on Tesla cars. Good thing that he has a loyal cult fanbase which drinks this kool-aid

And don't even get me started with his cybertruck and semis bs
 
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Minm

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Nah I'm not basing my view solely on how ordinary Iranians treat Chinese tourists. I'm saying that sizable portion of the population do like Chinese based on how the treatment they received. It isn't just fake smiles and polite greeting Japanese are known for. These Iranians go out of their way to make Chinese feel welcome. They invite them to their homes for meals, give them personal gifts, etc. Are they representative of the entire population, no of course not but I'm not even making that claim. But if they treating Chinese tourists so warming then yeah you can infer, that portion of the population dun have negative attitude towards Chinese or at least despise the people.

As for Pakistan and Russia,they are different cases with different relations to china, where you have the China Pakistan all weather brotherhood and the current blooming sino Russia ties thats not limited to political sphere. Ties with Iran in comparison, is more limited and hasn't permeated among the population. It's clear though from the girls view, Iran society still has positive views on Western culture and more affluent countries. China in comparison is less talked about. I already stated some of the reasons she gave so I'm not gonna repeat again. As for monitoring Iranians social media accounts and how they perceive Chinese and Americans, no I haven't done that, and really can't be arsed either, so I'm gonna take your word for it. Either way, even if I dun fully trust that survey, I'm also not going to convince anyone that the results are misleading. Everyone just believe what they want in the end.
People look up to successful nations, but the average person is very slow to recognise success. People still believe that Japanese consumer electronics are top quality and Chinese are cheap copies, even as they are using electronics made in China, often by Chinese brands, and Japanese electronics are gradually disappearing from the market because they're not as good as the competition. However, when Japanese brands were beginning to be dominant 50 years ago, they were regarded as low quality copies.

Common Iranian citizens are still prejudiced against China and Chinese products, even as they're using Chinese technology products. They will realise in the next 10-20 years that China is a high tech nation with a powerful military that can support them. Once China is the largest economy in the world, it will be even harder to deny reality.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Just finished watching and listening to this talk by former Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran on his most recent book regarding the India-Sino relationship his book titled "How China Sees India: The Authoritative account."

Mr. Saran has of course a very Indian centric point of view and sees China in almost negative way thwarting Indian desire in terms of joining NSG, seeing China's diplomatic action in the Pacific Islands as embarrassing since it didn't achieve the supposed desired objectives of "Collective security" made an observation that Wang Yi was so embarrassed that he allegedly cut off his press conference with the Fijian delegate to avoid being questioned with respect to the failed security arrangement it sought above all else.

Sees China in historical terms as not that important or not really the center or the middle kingdom it tried to portrayed itself, sold itself to the west. Saw the border issues with China as both countries not understanding each other's political system and values. Alleged that the clash of 1962 was more of a domestic power struggle between Mao and the group representing Deng Xiaoping etc..

Portrayed China's initial stance to the Quad as a nothing burger only to change her tune upon realizing that the group is being groomed as the Asian NATO.

He makes an assertion that the main Hegemonic goal of China which is to be the unquestioned hegemon of China has already been thwarted by groupings like the Quad, countries in the South and East Asia including Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, and he included Australia. Not to mention that the U.S. still plays more than a pivotal role in shaping or making China wake up from its delusions of grandeur a.k.a. Hegemon of Asia.

On a personal note: it's rather difficult to deal with a country like India when it's supposed best and brightest can be this ignorant and dismissive of China's objectives. Dismissive attitude towards China's achievement but also the legitimacy of it's political system, history, historical importance and gave me the impression that he wants India to be the center of Asia rather than China. Much of what he mentioned in this talk is a more soft form of Jai Hind, an urbane sounding polemic especially when he asserted that Russia has lost the war in Ukraine, and China backed the wrong horse, which basically make China a loser in this conflict as well.

 

AndrewS

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Their AI system architecture is hilariously bad and short-sighted. Elon can try and gaslight us all he wants about "well, humans have 2 eyes and can navigate the road, why can't we do the same with cameras for the car?!" lol

Chinese competition is going to blow Tesla's "autopilot" (a glorified Level 2 driver assistance system) in the coming year(s).
The newest Chinese EVs are full of all sorts of sensors to enable a true autopilot capability in the future, not the fake "only cameras will let Tesla master autopilot".

Anyone with even a knowledge about AI knows that Elon is full of hot air when he says that he doesn't need to put LiDAR on Tesla cars. Good thing that he has a loyal cult fanbase which drinks this kool-aid

And don't even get me started with his cybertruck and semis bs

It's possible that full self-driving can be achieved just with cameras.
But it's also possible that it can't.

Given that LIDARs are less than $1000 now, you might as well add them as it will help with self-driving.
 

alfreddango

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Just finished watching and listening to this talk by former Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran on his most recent book regarding the India-Sino relationship his book titled "How China Sees India: The Authoritative account."

Mr. Saran has of course a very Indian centric point of view and sees China in almost negative way thwarting Indian desire in terms of joining NSG, seeing China's diplomatic action in the Pacific Islands as embarrassing since it didn't achieve the supposed desired objectives of "Collective security" made an observation that Wang Yi was so embarrassed that he allegedly cut off his press conference with the Fijian delegate to avoid being questioned with respect to the failed security arrangement it sought above all else.

Sees China in historical terms as not that important or not really the center or the middle kingdom it tried to portrayed itself, sold itself to the west. Saw the border issues with China as both countries not understanding each other's political system and values. Alleged that the clash of 1962 was more of a domestic power struggle between Mao and the group representing Deng Xiaoping etc..

Portrayed China's initial stance to the Quad as a nothing burger only to change her tune upon realizing that the group is being groomed as the Asian NATO.

He makes an assertion that the main Hegemonic goal of China which is to be the unquestioned hegemon of China has already been thwarted by groupings like the Quad, countries in the South and East Asia including Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, and he included Australia. Not to mention that the U.S. still plays more than a pivotal role in shaping or making China wake up from its delusions of grandeur a.k.a. Hegemon of Asia.

On a personal note: it's rather difficult to deal with a country like India when it's supposed best and brightest can be this ignorant and dismissive of China's objectives. Dismissive attitude towards China's achievement but also the legitimacy of it's political system, history, historical importance and gave me the impression that he wants India to be the center of Asia rather than China. Much of what he mentioned in this talk is a more soft form of Jai Hind, an urbane sounding polemic especially when he asserted that Russia has lost the war in Ukraine, and China backed the wrong horse, which basically make China a loser in this conflict as well.

re: the recent pacific endeavour
did these nations sign memoranda of understanding or were they binding agreements? cause sadly mous are not that much of conquer. sure, they're better than nothing, but for example, italy signed one with china and in the end it just fell into oblivion.
if china manages to convince those countries to sign binding agreements, then that will be something truly meaningful.
I'm not trying to support saran's arguments here, my line of thought is that indian diplomats are shrewd, so even if I don't agree with them, I'll still listen to what they have to say
 
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