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Bellum_Romanum

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Wall Street. If you recall how Nortel got bankrupt, you would know what was fundamentally wrong with the telecom industry in North America.
Ahh okay. Well the collapse of Nortel was or is being blamed on CHYNA!! And that's not a joke. There's an article written on the Globe and Mail if am not mistaken making the case that Chinese industrial spying of some shit caused the company to disintegrate
 

4Runner

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Ahh okay. Well the collapse of Nortel was or is being blamed on CHYNA!! And that's not a joke. There's an article written on the Globe and Mail if am not mistaken making the case that Chinese industrial spying of some shit caused the company to disintegrate
That would be the joke of the last century. In the grand scheme of the Internet, there have been 3 bubbles so far. First bubble was from telecom deregulation in early 90s to year 2000, a.k.a. TDM domain. The top dogs were Nortel, Lucent, Alcatel, Ericsson, Nokia. Huawei was nobody then. Never heard ZTE or Samsung. Not even Cisco. During the first bubble, Nortel was way overbooked from many startups. When the bubble started bursting from January 2000, Nortel could never recover. After that, the second bubble started with IP domain, and Nortel did not have the technologies or product portfolios to compete against the likes of Ciscos and Junipers. And Huawei started to compete in the first tier. A combination of those factors buried Nortel. If you go to the Kanata, Ottawa area, many of those new technology companies poached a lot of former Nortel engineers, about 25000 of them. But Nortel no longer.
 

supersnoop

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Ahh okay. Well the collapse of Nortel was or is being blamed on CHYNA!! And that's not a joke. There's an article written on the Globe and Mail if am not mistaken making the case that Chinese industrial spying of some shit caused the company to disintegrate
Globe and Mail are written by idiots. They rerun that story all the time when trying to get Huawei banned.

Huawei hackers did nothing but kick a man already down. The CEO was fraudulently recording sales, did not do proper accounting by keeping a large amount of “goodwill” as an asset, topping it all off 100 million of the pension fund was raided. Unless Huawei has human ethics brain hacking technology, not sure how they played a major role.

I am not a telecoms engineer, but I also heard they were very slow to switch from hardware PBX and switching system to IP based.
 

4Runner

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That would be the joke of the last century. In the grand scheme of the Internet, there have been 3 bubbles so far. First bubble was from telecom deregulation in early 90s to year 2000, a.k.a. TDM domain. The top dogs were Nortel, Lucent, Alcatel, Ericsson, Nokia. Huawei was nobody then. Never heard ZTE or Samsung. Not even Cisco. During the first bubble, Nortel was way overbooked from many startups. When the bubble started bursting from January 2000, Nortel could never recover. After that, the second bubble started with IP domain, and Nortel did not have the technologies or product portfolios to compete against the likes of Ciscos and Junipers. And Huawei started to compete in the first tier. A combination of those factors buried Nortel. If you go to the Kanata, Ottawa area, many of those new technology companies poached a lot of former Nortel engineers, about 25000 of them. But Nortel no longer.
Of cause, I missed Motorola. Do you remember 大哥大? Back then Motorola dominated both mobile telecom and embedded microprocessors. It was the Wall Street that was the primary culprit who drowned Motorola. But the story of Motorola was even more complicated than Nortel.
 

Fredrik

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Document confirms US told Russia NATO won’t expand​

“We made it clear to the Soviet Union – in the 2+4 talks, as well as in other negotiations – that we do not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe,” the document quotes US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Canada Raymond Seitz.
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Document confirms US told Russia NATO won’t expand​

“We made it clear to the Soviet Union – in the 2+4 talks, as well as in other negotiations – that we do not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe,” the document quotes US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Canada Raymond Seitz.
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You know the word of the US isn't worth the paper it's written on.
 
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