Tbf Japan has heavily invested in SAE the past decades. Is it really that strange for people to like Japan when it invests in their countries?
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I am talking about the strategic choice by the governments, not public opinion.
Ok, but in a strategic sense Japan still keeps heavily investing in SEA. They cant go with China due to SCS and racism towards it.
They can't go with the US because it doesn't offer anything new and also wants them to be against China which isn't in their national interest.
The only choice is to keep their "neutrality" and choose Japan and other outside players (EU?)
If they choose Japan, they are choosing the US, that's it. Japan will merely act as the local economic arm. There's no strategic independence or neutrality when you choose Japan over the US or China because you just pick the US in a roundabout way. For example, say Vietnam & Japan develop economic ties but the US gets threatened about "muh red commie Viets" - do you think Japan will provide any assistance to Vietnam?
For sure. Japan is a roundabout way to support the US.
The difference remains on how strongly Japan comes against China.
The moment it become too obvious or too heavy-handed, the region will turn against it.
The example of Australia is proof of this. Some years before, Australia had a similar reputation of being "neutral" (secret US lackey..) and having some influence in the region.
The moment, Australia revealed its true self, the whole region is now treating it as just another US state.
So the big difficulty that Japan is facing now is to remain pro-US while not deleting its China relations. The current administration seems suitable for this. Their PM is China-friendly (Japanese business interests) while his conservative party are full of USA-puppets (CIA).
It all depends on how well they balance these 2 factions, at the moment though, the CIA is winning hands-down
Maybe. Either way, if it is going to come down to picking sides, then SEA will only have a choice between the US and China.
@xypher bro early on Duterte term while the economic advisers were formulating Duterte economic policy, the US and EU make known that any loan , Manila should implement certain "request" or else the "Financial assistance" will not be approved and Japan supported it. When Duterte left for Beijing , Xi provide $10 billion of economic assistance with Grants amounting to $2 billion, in gratitude Duterte announce the now famous China Pivot. Japan reverse course trying to win back Duterte goodwill, the problem Japan can't compete...lol All in all China provided $25 billion in low interest loan and Japan had to match it (By the way those $50 billion loans are use in our Build Build Build program, better known as BBB sound better than B3W of Brandon). BUT they can't compete with China in other places in ASEAN like in Indonesia, Myanmar, Thailand in Laos and Cambodia. They had to be selective in places like in Vietnam or Malaysia due to resource constraint. Their largeness isn't large enough when compare to China. And here I see why the US look down on Japan, as an extension of the US , their influence carry no weight in the region. We in Asean see Japan as an acquaintance rather than a friend.
Whenever I hear B3W I always think of "the BBW you didn't order" haha
The likes of Nike et al thought that they could jump on the China hate bandwagon at no cost to themselves and perhaps even get bigger market share once the Trump trade war was over ie they were betting on white anglo victory.
Too bad, the arrogance of white anglo supremacists proves to once again be their own downfall.
Too bad, the arrogance of white anglo supremacists proves to once again be their own downfall.