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According to Wikipedia, diplomacy is soft power. IMHO, meeting with someone who might become a President of another country is diplomacy.
LoL, I do not live in the West. For those Asians who live in the west, it's their personal choice to go there and I think they know the risk.
I don't think China gives a rat's ass what the West whines about; it's more about infrastructure. The infrastructure required to mine, process, and transport Afghan ores needs time to develop. I think China's waiting to see how the political situation in Afghanistan develops and whether there's going to be the requisite stability.
Furthermore, developing Afghanistan's minerals is going to be resource intensive and I think China would like to first link Afghanistan to Pakistan economically through CPEC. I don't foresee Afghanistan shipping ores directly to China (direct links between China and Afghanistan are a no-no); rather, I see the ores being mined and sent to Pakistan by rail, where they are then processed and shipped to China by sea.
No, my earliest post only suggest that China keep improving its PR (without neglecting hard power) and dispel bad rumor before it spreads.
We know already, this latest conflict is about PR war, some countries want to create bad image of China or possibly create a boycott of Winter Olympic.
The bad rumor started when they said Peng Shuai is missing, and China's media release an email which is said to be from her. IMHO, that rumor can be handled better than that, which now already be done like live video call with IOC official.
How is the China Pakistan oil pipeline project? Presumably if successful you can construct oil and gas pipelines from Afgh to China. I'm not sure how the topography of pipelines from Central Asia to China differ from Pakistan/Afghanistan to China. As you know China already imports gas from Central Asia eg Turkmenistan Kazakhstan via pipelines already thru Central Asia Lines A to C.
Wikipedia is trash and Joseph Nye is at best misguided. I'll lay this out clearly so we don't keep going in circles:
1. There's no such thing as soft power. Therefore, there's no such thing as hard power either. There is only power - the capacity to compel another actor to make decisions they would not under ordinary circumstances.
2. Power, repeatedly applied, engenders obedience. With time, the actor you are compelling no longer requires explicit instruction to do what you want - they learn to do so "of their own volition."
3. That level of obedience is initially forced. There is no exception to this rule.
4. That level of obedience is what China should strive to establish in the countries on its periphery.
Diplomacy is not any kind of power, diplomacy reflects the current distribution of power. Diplomacy is where the abstract distribution of power and capacity for compulsion are realized.
I guess we can agree to disagree.
manqiangrexue
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He's not asking me because he knows the answer; I know the answer and he knows I know the answer. He wants to see if you know the answer, which it doesn't seem like you do despite being laid out as obvious as can be to you. The answer is that he used hard power, verbal at first, with the physical as back-up. That meeting is the Chinese telling him if he doesn't wanna end up like Park Geun-Hye and turn South Korea into the new North Korea, he better recognize who the upcoming power is and act wisely. He wasn't talking to an idiot like Trump so he likely could afford to say that in a much more subtle way without it getting lost on the other guy but in general, that's the gist of it. Nobody moves an inch for soft/flaccid/limp shit.
You don't even understand the basics of how important the global competition is to the point where you're talking about people getting hurt like that would make the competition get out of hand. It's ridiculous. "I guess we can agree to disagree" is just an escape when you've been out-debated by like 7 different people. I think Somalia has the highest standard of living in the world; show me all the modern places with rich people walking like ants among skyscrapers? Well, we can agree to disagree.
What bad rumour? There's a strong political element in S.Korea that's anti-China because there's a market for that in the country not to mention a strong pro-America element. That meeting and the issue of S.Korea inclination to be anti-China is still there and it's not going to get abated anytime soon due to the geopolitical fault lines that exist. So please provide us a template or some kind of workable middle ground where we can all understand whatever your plans are going to set aside the pertinent issues that's not going to be readily swept aside by sweeping rhetoric or some public relations wunderkind when the actual situations on the ground remain a status quo.
Lol because China wasn't in any realistic position to challenge the world hyper power which is the U.S. at that time and China wasn't seen as the menacing/pacing threat that the U.S. sees China today back then.
How old are you? If you don't mind me asking and where did you grow or born? Am asking because I am genuinely curious as to how your thought process came to be this way. And how your environment that you grow up helped shaped, mold, your current world views especially or more specifically to China and the west relations.