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hashtagpls

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When you put it that way it's not much, I mean the Chinese guy who alerts the MSS could get upwards of 500k RMB in reward.
Indeed, the problem is the white Anglo mentality; racial supremacism means they’ll never promote an Asian male to a highly classified intelligence position even if he were as honest and gullible as say Andrew yang.

secondly, in Anglo society and culture, they purposely exclude Asian males from entering higher positions of wealth and power despite achieving merit eg Harvard excluding Asian males in medicine, finance firms never promoting Asian males to C-suite despite wanting to profit from Asian clients.
Effectively, why would any Chinese man or woman aid in the continuing oppression of their own race and people and their own children? May as well turn yourself into a eunuch to make the white man feel secure.
 

MortyandRick

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You're completely avoiding my question of how China can stop companies from bribing foreign officials, after you specifically claimed China can do this, and you're claiming I'm making a strawman? LOL!

Do you also have a reading comprehension problem? I said something very specific about the Galwan videos, which specifically disagrees with your assertion that those videos are some kind of successful PR exercise. What exactly did I flip flop on? ROFL!

I watch RT. Putting aside the fact that it's a piece of crap using the same unscrupulous tactics as Western media, RT has been on YouTube since 2007, and has broadcasting operations in the US itself. CGTN joined YouTube in 2013, and like any Chinese media company, is heavily censured in the US and UK.

To compare the two shows you don't even grasp the basic facts.

As for individual content creators like Nathan Rich, which btw has 500k subs compared to the 2.6m subs of CGTN, private content creators do not operate under the same limitations as corporate or official media organizations. Even then, YouTube severely hinders the development of pro-China content creators through demonetization and traffic throttling, as I have already pointed out.
Did you even read my initial post? I had quoted it again but seems like you really did not comprehend it. Your current question has nothing to do with my original post about promoting anti corruption messaging in africa and you literally moved the goal post to "how does Xi make Chinese companies stop bribery". You are using the strawman fallacy. It is YOU who is moving the goal post, which is what you falsely accused others of doing! Now your just a hypocrite as well! Congrats

I said something very specific about the Galwan videos, which specifically disagrees with your assertion that those videos are some kind of successful PR exercise.
So you don't think releasing the Galwan photos were successful PR? Why do you think it's not a success? Then what would you have done? Kept it in the archives and never let it out and just hope people take our word that china took prisoners? Again you're acting the way you accuse others if acting, being naive or just obtuse. You're really good at being a hypocrite .

If those photos were only for Indians officials like you mentioned, then why did china release them to the public when they could have just shown it to Indian officials behind closed doors? They did it because it was PR to counter fake Indian news. And it was successful PR! And china can do more successful PR.

Anyhow hypocrites are a waste of my time. I'm happy to agree to disagree with you and leave it at that.
 

MortyandRick

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In doing so, you are making China just another western country, another version of USA. That is exactly what the west has been trying to do for decades.
I don't agree. The west does not want chjs to be another version of the US. They are working actively to prevent it. They want a china chats subservient to the west.


But your suggestions are pretty much what the west has been trying to teach China to become, good boy of the west, a model non-western western country like Japan. You take your "good and bad, right and wrong, should and should not" from the western propaganda book, not th
No that's not my suggestion. I suggest China sometimes fight fire with fire. It would be the opposite of turning china into a vassel state if china can defend herself adequately no the PR world stage.

I think china needs to work smarter in PR and counter better against the Wests lies. And I think better messaging is needed. A lie, however big, if said a million times becomes truth. I feel china needs use some these strategies to counter such attacks.

But the problem is that's only my opinion and Everyone has one.
 

solarz

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Did you even read my initial post? I had quoted it again but seems like you really did not comprehend it. Your current question has nothing to do with my original post about promoting anti corruption messaging in africa and you literally moved the goal post to "how does Xi make Chinese companies stop bribery". You are using the strawman fallacy. It is YOU who is moving the goal post, which is what you falsely accused others of doing! Now your just a hypocrite as well! Congrats

Since you seem to have a habit of selective memory, here's a screenshot to remind you what the argument is about:

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You weren't talking about "promoting anti-corruption message in Africa". You were talking about having Xi Jinping personally tell Chinese companies to stop bribing African officials.

So you don't think releasing the Galwan photos were successful PR? Why do you think it's not a success? Then what would you have done? Kept it in the archives and never let it out and just hope people take our word that china took prisoners? Again you're acting the way you accuse others if acting, being naive or just obtuse. You're really good at being a hypocrite .

If those photos were only for Indians officials like you mentioned, then why did china release them to the public when they could have just shown it to Indian officials behind closed doors? They did it because it was PR to counter fake Indian news. And it was successful PR! And china can do more successful PR.

Your understanding of IR matters seem really deficient. The release of the Galwan video is retaliation against Indian defamation. It was never meant to be a PR stunt as you seem to believe, nor is it going to change the minds of many people on Twitter, especially when most of those people don't even know what Galwan is about.
 

MortyandRick

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Since you seem to have a habit of selective memory, here's a screenshot to remind you what the argument is about:

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You weren't talking about "promoting anti-corruption message in Africa". You were talking about having Xi Jinping personally tell Chinese companies to stop bribing African officials.



Your understanding of IR matters seem really deficient. The release of the Galwan video is retaliation against Indian defamation. It was never meant to be a PR stunt as you seem to believe, nor is it going to change the minds of many people on Twitter, especially when most of those people don't even know what Galwan is about.
Looks like it you who has been selectively picking quotes. Again I said INITIAL quote and you picked a second quite where I was correcting a sentence on my initial quote.

Here it is again in case you don’t understand the definition of “initial”.

My concern is if Xi tells chinese companies to by give kick backs, then other western companies will give kick backs and it's under the radar with the preception that kickbacks do not occur. In the end I feel the main issue is not just stopping corruption but also improving messaging and media in Africa.
So as in my Initial quote I specifically said the main issue is not stoping corruption but also messaging and media in Africa. And you harped on only the first sentence. What a hypocrite.

Your understanding of IR matters seem really deficient. The release of the Galwan video is retaliation against Indian defamation. It was never meant to be a PR stunt as you seem to believe, nor is it going to change the minds of many people on Twitter, especially when most of those people don't even know what Galwan is about.
Are you just repeating stuff that I said? I mentioned it was retaliation against Indian fake news and you just repeated it. Fighting defamation IS effective PR in IR! Many Indians know Galwan and the pictures certainly affects them. Why don’t you answer the question, what would you have done if you didn’t think it was successful?
 

sinophilia

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I always wondered how come many incompetent children of bureaucrats managed admission into Harvard, Yale etc. This makes sense.


Now everyone should question what relationship exists exactly between these universities and the American intelligence agencies? Are these supposedly free universities actively abetting and aiding spies through granting them admission if they spy on other countries?

I hope China and other countries are forceful in confronting this if it's true.
 

hashtagpls

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I always wondered how come many incompetent children of bureaucrats managed admission into Harvard, Yale etc. This makes sense.


Now everyone should question what relationship exists exactly between these universities and the American intelligence agencies? Are these supposedly free universities actively abetting and aiding spies through granting them admission if they spy on other countries?

I hope China and other countries are forceful in confronting this if it's true.
anglo america thought they could bribe the best and brightest of other nations to give blood, brains and labour to benefit America, only to get foreign traitors and opportunistic charlatans.
small wonder america is in decline.
 

horse

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Now everyone should question what relationship exists exactly between these universities and the American intelligence agencies? Are these supposedly free universities actively abetting and aiding spies through granting them admission if they spy on other countries?

I hope China and other countries are forceful in confronting this if it's true.

Sounds like bs.

Seems more like an attempt to have Chinese turn against fellow Chinese.

Also, isn't Xi Jinping's daughter a Harvard student? Maybe this is a criticism against him? That is just CIA smear, yet again.

Comrade Deng got his education aboard, like so many others. Not an issue.

:)
 

horse

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Now everyone should question what relationship exists exactly between these universities and the American intelligence agencies? Are these supposedly free universities actively abetting and aiding spies through granting them admission if they spy on other countries?

I hope China and other countries are forceful in confronting this if it's true.

It has been rumoured, that certain professors work for or in contact with CIA or intelligence services of a country.

That does not seem unusual. The CIA places want the best and brightest.

Whether these professors actively recruit their students, I doubt that. Everyone is too busy.

I doubt CIA running around campus either.

Only rich spoiled Chinese kids running around campus in expensive cars.

What kind of assets would they make? Cannot pay them enough!?

LOL!

:)
 
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