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Bellum_Romanum

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So RU is really offering its central asia bases to US for CT ops. What Putin is expecting in return? US to drop sanction against RU?
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Hmm very interesting development and arrangement between the U.S. and Russia. I don't know why it's important for RU to even allow the U.S. military to have a staging base situated on Russian sphere of responsibility when they have sufficient military power to take care of these errand terrorists or would be terrorists. So if and when this transaction is completed it only means that Russia is angling for something tangible in return, like lifting the sanctions off on the Russian elites and the Russian dual citizen executive that's been arrested recently.
 

hashtagpls

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Are there really Koreans saying that Jesus was Korean? Lol what's the f..ng evidence for this outlandish claim?
Back in the 2000s-2010s internet, there was a massive belief amongst some Korean Nationalists to believe this sort of Jai Hind BS; based largely on the same wishful thinking and Zenz like Scholarship.
If the Koreans are that "superior" then why is their military under the command of their lord, master, and savior Lord U.S.A.?
Exactly the same reason seemingly racially superior anglos are unable to innovate 5G and quantum communication yet the inferior Chinese are.

Racist "Chosen People" type mythos tend to be light on facts and heavy on wishful thinking and tend to be very popular amongst disenfranchised, sexually frustrated nobody young males. Just take a gander at the specimens at the "Unite the Right" rally of 2017 to get an idea of the prospects of these individuals.
 

hashtagpls

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Hmm very interesting development and arrangement between the U.S. and Russia. I don't know why it's important for RU to even allow the U.S. military to have a staging base situated on Russian sphere of responsibility when they have sufficient military power to take care of these errand terrorists or would be terrorists. So if and when this transaction is completed it only means that Russia is angling for something tangible in return, like lifting the sanctions off on the Russian elites and the Russian dual citizen executive that's been arrested recently.
So effectively the US would have given up nothing.

This is the Anglo style way of doing business and politics; exactly how you'd expect the mafia to do business; first they'll kidnap or sanction your people then as leverage, and when you finally hammer out an agreement and get your people back they'll have gained something from you and yet your net gain is exactly 0, having reverted back to mean.

Looking at the huawei situation, the anglos released Meng and were hoping for Chinese assistance with the debt and to get china to buy more boeing planes and yet China aint budging because the items on the list given to Sherman have not been accomplished; Clearing out that list brings Sino-US relations back to mean, back to normalcy, enabling potential for more substantive deals to be made. Until those items are checked off the list, the anglos better get ready to hunker down for Cold War 2.0 and they aint doing so hot right now.
 

escobar

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Hmm very interesting development and arrangement between the U.S. and Russia. I don't know why it's important for RU to even allow the U.S. military to have a staging base situated on Russian sphere of responsibility when they have sufficient military power to take care of these errand terrorists or would be terrorists. So if and when this transaction is completed it only means that Russia is angling for something tangible in return, like lifting the sanctions off on the Russian elites and the Russian dual citizen executive that's been arrested recently.
They dislike US containing them through OTAN expansion, and now they are offering their own base, lol.
US sanctions have hit them hard, specially in the space sector. Dmitry Rogozin, the head of Roscosmos said : "We have more than enough rockets but nothing to launch them with. We have spacecraft that are nearly assembled but they lack one specific microchip set that we have no way of purchasing because of the sanctions.
 

escobar

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So effectively the US would have given up nothing.

This is the Anglo style way of doing business and politics; exactly how you'd expect the mafia to do business; first they'll kidnap or sanction your people then as leverage, and when you finally hammer out an agreement and get your people back they'll have gained something from you and yet your net gain is exactly 0, having reverted back to mean.

Looking at the huawei situation, the anglos released Meng and were hoping for Chinese assistance with the debt and to get china to buy more boeing planes and yet China aint budging because the items on the list given to Sherman have not been accomplished; Clearing out that list brings Sino-US relations back to mean, back to normalcy, enabling potential for more substantive deals to be made. Until those items are checked off the list, the anglos better get ready to hunker down for Cold War 2.0 and they aint doing so hot right now.
Yep, bravado Putin will get nothing. Not really great for CN-RU relation...
 

Bellum_Romanum

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They dislike US containing them through OTAN expansion, and now they are offering their own base, lol.
US sanctions have hit them hard, specially in the space sector. Dmitry Rogozin, the head of Roscosmos said : "We have more than enough rockets but nothing to launch them with. We have spacecraft that are nearly assembled but they lack one specific microchip set that we have no way of purchasing because of the sanctions.
Russians are also infected with the persistent belief and idea that they are more of European orient rather than facing the actual reality that they're never going to be treated as an equal amongst their fellow European previous colonial powers. They were never accepted wholly in the club then when Russia had a monarchy that's relatives amongst the European monarchies. Putin maybe a pragmatic person but his elites are pro-western, pro-hedonistic bunch and if it wasn't for these American led sanctions and meddling on their country they may have been totally in the Anglosphere camp.

China was and is wise not to be entangled in terms of formal alliance with Russia because I don't think at this current juncture and development stage that Russia has enough cajones to believe in China rising and exceeding the current dilemma and challenge being imposed upon her by the entire western world. It'll be interesting to see if China can keep the military options off the table when it comes to her varied interests around the world, especially in Africa where some of the BRI projects are under constant disinformation warfare and actual physical attacks. And despite her numerous pledge not to meddle, not to use force, it ends up being chastise and characterize her actions as more than malevolent to the detriment and encroachment of U.S. meddling which actually weakens her interests. China maybe Uber wealthy and great with economic integration but her hard power may look impressive on paper but she doesn't have that reputation of a power that puts fear into her enemies plain and simple which is why she's being constantly f..ng poke by peepsquak powers like the Philippines, African countries, Malaysia, Indonesia...
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Yep, bravado Putin will get nothing. Not really great for CN-RU relation...
How do you DETER potential and would be adversaries when all the best you can muster is to issue the usual "Nations must respect sovereignty spiel" when all the evidence so far that despite China's herculean refrain and restraint from unleashing hell on Earth her enemies has seen her inactions as actual military weakness. The questioning or constant refrain of the PLA'S lack of combat experience is always broadcasted like sure you have these weaponries but can you actually use them and utilize them at their full potential to inflict pain and death to your enemies without prejudice? A charge that's absurd and smack of double standard because most sane and reasonable people know that Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and hosts of European countries could hardly claim any battlefield experience over China.

The above mentioned are just my observations and is based from how the previous superpowers and current superpower, the U.S. has historically behaved and is behaving. Despite her enemies protestations and frustrations, not to mention the sea of chaos and human carcasses, these same enemies have an actual grudging respect and even admiration for the way the U.S. has retained her benevolent image so much so that the multitude of victims have become pliant converts and zealout believers in the strength and values of America which is also why it can continue to inflict untold damage with impunity. No empire, no country in the history of mankind has ever managed to even come close to America's dominance.
 

Overbom

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Russians are also infected with the persistent belief and idea that they are more of European orient rather than facing the actual reality that they're never going to be treated as an equal amongst their fellow European previous colonial powers. They were never accepted wholly in the club then when Russia had a monarchy that's relatives amongst the European monarchies. Putin maybe a pragmatic person but his elites are pro-western, pro-hedonistic bunch and if it wasn't for these American led sanctions and meddling on their country they may have been totally in the Anglosphere camp.
IMO Russia will always see themselves as European. Almost all of their population is on the European continent. Who is going to want to live in Siberia...


China was and is wise not to be entangled in terms of formal alliance with Russia because I don't think at this current juncture and development stage that Russia has enough cajones to believe in China rising and exceeding the current dilemma and challenge being imposed upon her by the entire western world
At least Putin is now trying to change Russia from looking to Europe, to look to China/East. I believe that after another decade the Russian population and elite would have different attitudes towards China. It is a slow moving process but it is certainly happening.
I think that maybe in 5 or so years, Russia as a whole will start believing a bit in China. For now its "only" the top elite who believe on this.


It'll be interesting to see if China can keep the military options off the table when it comes to her varied interests around the world, especially in Africa where some of the BRI projects are under constant disinformation warfare and actual physical attacks. And despite her numerous pledge not to meddle, not to use force, it ends up being chastise and characterize her actions as more than malevolent to the detriment and encroachment of U.S. meddling which actually weakens her interests. China maybe Uber wealthy and great with economic integration but her hard power may look impressive on paper but she doesn't have that reputation of a power that puts fear into her enemies plain and simple which is why she's being constantly f..ng poke by peepsquak powers like the Philippines, African countries, Malaysia, Indonesia...
Eventually China will have to use force. Not even because of necessity, but because the Anglos and European will never respect you until they see you destroying someone.

In the West, the more you kill, the more they respect you. The US status is proof of that...
 

escobar

Brigadier
How do you DETER potential and would be adversaries when all the best you can muster is to issue the usual "Nations must respect sovereignty spiel" when all the evidence so far that despite China's herculean refrain and restraint from unleashing hell on Earth her enemies has seen her inactions as actual military weakness. The questioning or constant refrain of the PLA'S lack of combat experience is always broadcasted like sure you have these weaponries but can you actually use them and utilize them at their full potential to inflict pain and death to your enemies without prejudice? A charge that's absurd and smack of double standard because most sane and reasonable people know that Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and hosts of European countries could hardly claim any battlefield experience over China.

The above mentioned are just my observations and is based from how the previous superpowers and current superpower, the U.S. has historically behaved and is behaving. Despite her enemies protestations and frustrations, not to mention the sea of chaos and human carcasses, these same enemies have an actual grudging respect and even admiration for the way the U.S. has retained her benevolent image so much so that the multitude of victims have become pliant converts and zealout believers in the strength and values of America which is also why it can continue to inflict untold damage with impunity. No empire, no country in the history of mankind has ever managed to even come close to America's dominance.
lol, Most of the world have been brainwashed by US powerfull PR: adversaries and allies.
 
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