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Queen Elizabeth II said the China-UK relations are very important and the royal family will continue to make efforts for the development of bilateral relations when she accepted a letter of credentials from China's new ambassador to the UK via video link.

The Chinese ambassador Zheng Zeguang praised the queen and the royal family for their long-term support for the development of bilateral relations, and said China is committed to developing healthy and stable bilateral relations with the UK.

The queen's remarks were a positive sign following Prime Minister Boris Johnson's remarks on a Chinese company's purchase deal with a British semiconductor chips manufacturing plant.

Ordering his national security adviser to probe the takeover, Johnson said,"I do not want an anti-China spirit to lead to us trying to pitchfork away every investment form China into this country. That would be economically foolhardy."

His government in early 2020 decided to ban Huawei from joining the UK's 5G network following the US government trumpeted concerns of espionage and surveillance, an accusation the Chinese telecommunication giant has denied repeatedly.

The EU parliament voiced calls to boycott the Beijing Winter Olympics over the so-called human rights abuses in Xinjiang. The British opposition Labour Party had pushed the issue but Prime Minister Johnson said he was "instinctively" against sporting boycotts.

Meanwhile, the British government has joined its Western allies in meddling in Hong Kong and Xinjiang affairs. This complex attitude of the UK in dealing with China reflected UK is carefully balancing its trade-centered relations with China and the influence of politics and ideology of the US-led Western group.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang held a video conference with business representatives from the UK on Tuesday, and they discussed a wide range of issues including bilateral relationship, pragmatic economic cooperation, measures to improve the business environment and counter the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. It marks the first formal business communication between the two countries in the absence of high-level diplomatic dialogue this year.

Britain needs a close cooperation with China to offset the impact of its withdrawal from the EU and elevate its global influence.

Although London is likely to continue following the political steps of the US government to make things difficult for China in order to achieve its diplomatic goal, relations between China and the UK could move toward a balance, observers predict, noting positive development of China-UK relations would offer an insight for the EU to handle its relations with China.
A scorpion never loses its sting or its venom or its nature. So... watch out!
 

jfcarli

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They don’t need anything as dramatic if they really wanted to extract her. Disabling ankle bracelets is child’s play for any remotely competently trained expert, and Meng could be on a private jet and well into international airspace long before the Canadians knew what was going on, all with zero help from the Chinese government. Just look at how Ghosn escaped Japan so easily, and he organised that as a private individual without the resources of a major international company like Meng can demand any time she wants.

Part of me suspect that is what the Canadian government secretly want by granting her house arrest, since that would solve their own problem neatly for them, where China will have little reason to continue to sanction them, and they can claim they did all they can to their American overlords, and the Americans can use that as a pretext to sanction Huawei some more.

But that would effectively end Meng’s career as for Huawei to continue to employ her would cause the company all sorts of legal issues in the western world since Canada and America will trial and convict her in absence.

Meng’s position has long been backfilled, so she can stay there for as long as needed. It sucks for her career wise, but it’s not really going to set her back much in that regards as there will always be a suitably senior position for her as soon as she can return. And in the context of the pandemic, it’s not really like her house arrest is all that different from what the rest of us has had to endure in some form and duration anyways.
Never thought of it this way, but you are right... The best thing for Canada would be her leaving inside a contrabass case.
 

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Graveyard of empires. Afghans are defeating the US the same way Vietnam did in the 70s. America is so cowardly.
It’s not that Americans are cowardly. That would be a gross simplification and massive underestimation of America and Americans.

It’s just that America’s leaders keep sending their troops into hopeless situations to fight wars of choice that no one in America really believes in or know how to actually win.

Afghanistan is a cultural, political and economic problem that America tried to solve with primarily military solutions backed up with only token economic projects and self-serving virtue-signalling vanity cultural programmes that trampled on core traditional Afghan customes and beliefs without first laying the groundwork for such a cultural revolution amongst the local population or the means or will to see it through.

Ironically, if you want to see how such a cultural, economic and political problem can be solved, you need look no further than Xinjiang right across the boarder.

I think a huge amount of the new American-led western smear campaign against Xinjiang is inextricably linked to Afghanistan.

As retired American colonels openly admitted, a core reason for America staying in Afghanistan is that they wanted to use it as a springboard to destabilise Xinjiang next door. Now Xinjiang is peaceful and prosperous like ever before while America has to slip out of Afghanistan in the dead of night likes thief without daring to tell anyone and you can see why they might be a bit mentally imbalanced about the whole thing.

You know China is doing something seriously right when even the Taliban are bending backwards to assure China they bare China no ill will and don’t want any piece of Chinese internal affairs. That’s the same Taliban who must be on historic highs after driving out the Americans.

Looks like both China and the Taliban learnt useful lessons from the end of the Vietnam war. Where China has flexed hard and subtle enough to give the Taliban zero delusions about trying to destabilise Xinjiang; while the Taliban also learnt from Vietnam’s post-victory strategic overreach due to delusions of grandeur and the consequences of forcing China to teach them some humility to not want to experience that first hand themselves.

No wonder the Americans are super pissed and trying to stir up trouble like there is no tomorrow.
 

j17wang

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It’s not that Americans are cowardly. That would be a gross simplification and massive underestimation of America and Americans.

Make no mistake, I do not underestimate americans. Americans are cowardly because they cannot admit to themselves why they were there to begin with. Was it to go after Bin Laden (doubtful, since he was killed in Pakistan)? Was it to remake Afghanistan in its image (a monumental failure, as we will soon go back to what was prior to the invasion)? America lied to its own people continuously about why it was there to begin with, and therefore did not have the fortitude to continue to any ultimate objective.

Its the exact same thing as Vietnam. America didnt learn. If the cause were righteous, America and its people would actually tolerate 100,000 casualties, such as the case of WWII or the civil war. But this was not WWII or the civil war, so there was no way for america to sustain a conflict to ultimate victory.
 

taxiya

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Imperialism necessitated the creation of capitalism and hastened the decline of feudalism (together with things like technological advancement).

There were empires before capitalism (well duh). There were “modern” Western empires when feudalism was still being practiced. Charters and letters patent were being issued in Britain before the end of feudalism in 1662 (by legal instrument too). France had it for longer, Russia too (which was an empire, but we can focus on Western only if you like).

I was giving you a chance to consider further, it is quite clearly you who needs to read. This topic is far more nuanced and old for you to grasp. I was even very accomodating by saying your characterisation of late-stage capitalism was part of the later story, but not the whole picture.

Simply put, imperialism predated capitalism (obviously). ‘Modern imperialism’, also predated capitalism.

You think I was asking you because I didn’t know?

As to the other part, you can go and open a book yourself (you started this tone, not I). But here is a similar, but not close example (as they didn’t become empires with their eventual permanent foreign settlements) - why did the Vikings raid? Is it because they had an abundance of resources, large amounts of arable land (8th century tech), great weather, no population pressure and didn’t care about being admitted to Valhalla?
That is a totally reversed statement of reality. Capitalism grows within a state and feeds by its market in its early time. Then it hits the roof because the market eventually becomes too small and natural resource becomes limited. It need bigger market and more resource, so naturally it will expend outside of its native state. Since capital controls its government, it is only natural for the state to force open other countries' market by military means, hence capitalism grows into imperialism.

The colonial expansion of Europe all over the world is the perfect illustration.

Note, imperialism here has NOTHING to do with empire like ancient Rome, Persian and Chinese. Imperialism in modern political-economical study is specifically defined as a later development of capitalism. This is what Marxism means when using this term.

Here is the trick that main stream western school trying to muddy the water. In this school Imperialism literally means anything about an empire. And empire is an English word denoting any state that has vast land and population. In doing so the west conveniently put ancient Rome, China, Persia and even India on the same lot with the modern colonialist. This school took a well and clearly defined term from their opponent and twist its meaning. This is a tactic to whitewash their specific guilt, it is a exact same tactic of re-defining "marriage", also similar to labeling China "neo-colonialism". It is "If I am going to loose, I will move the goal post", "If I was a thief, I will call everyone a thief".

I don't know if you are aware of the above. But I would like to remind you that "which definition one chooses" is a fundamental point that can not be debated. It is like a devoted god-believer vs. a atheist. There is no common ground for the two to discuss.
 

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That is a totally reversed statement of reality. Capitalism grows within a state and feeds by its market in its early time. Then it hits the roof because the market eventually becomes too small and natural resource becomes limited. It need bigger market and more resource, so naturally it will expend outside of its native state. Since capital controls its government, it is only natural for the state to force open other countries' market by military means, hence capitalism grows into imperialism.

The colonial expansion of Europe all over the world is the perfect illustration.

Note, imperialism here has NOTHING to do with empire like ancient Rome, Persian and Chinese. Imperialism in modern political-economical study is specifically defined as a later development of capitalism. This is what Marxism means when using this term.

Here is the trick that main stream western school trying to muddy the water. In this school Imperialism literally means anything about an empire. And empire is an English word denoting any state that has vast land and population. In doing so the west conveniently put ancient Rome, China, Persia and even India on the same lot with the modern colonialist. This school took a well and clearly defined term from their opponent and twist its meaning. This is a tactic to whitewash their specific guilt, it is a exact same tactic of re-defining "marriage", also similar to labeling China "neo-colonialism". It is "If I am going to loose, I will move the goal post", "If I was a thief, I will call everyone a thief".

I don't know if you are aware of the above. But I would like to remind you that "which definition one chooses" is a fundamental point that can not be debated. It is like a devoted god-believer vs. a atheist. There is no common ground for the two to discuss.

Is that what they teach in school nowadays? That is all bullshit. Agree with what you are saying.

Imperialism was always a two step process. First subjugate the foreign population. Second rip them off.

That is how Europe got wealthy.

Where did all their gold come from?

Gold was and still is real money.

The gold holdings of western countries today, owe it roots primary from ripping off other peoples in the past.

That is Imperialism. To beat them up and then rip them off.

The United States wanted to do that too in Afghanistan in recent years, but they wimped out.
 

taxiya

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Is that what they teach in school nowadays? That is all bullshit. Agree with what you are saying.
Don't quite get what you wanted to say. If those are bullshit, how could you agree with what I was saying? P.S. I don't take offense of your wording.

Those were taught in my school years IN China. And I am certain they are still taught today.

By your objecting to that teach, I am sure you were not Chinese, or you migrated out of China in early ages.

Regardless, I must emphasize once again, this "imperialism" is NOT your "imperialism". This imperialism is a specific term created by Karl Marx from an existing word imperial + ism to describe a new concept in his work. Before him, there was no such terminology in social science study. It is like "class" which is NOT the same thing as class in daily English language.

You are free to use the word imperialism as an English word but you must be aware that what you are talking about is different thing from others. It is same as the word marriage in Canada is NOT a marriage in China and most of the world, and it was NOT even the same marriage in Canada before 2005. You can't argue about what marriage entails with a Chinese, or with an old generation Canadian.

Therefor, debating whether a concept and its content is right or wrong is totally pointless if people use their personal favored definition instead of the original one.
 
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