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sndef888 said:
Anyone with background in coding tell me how big of a deal this actually is?
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It is a big deal in that a Chinese model is now beating Western models in benchmarks, but not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Once a software project reaches a certain size, it is not just coding but becomes system engineering, in which case all the LLMs suck at doing.
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
China has 500 J-20s? So why are you Jai Hinds so rattled?

Apparently this post rattled Shiv and Vishnu:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2072929011072729168

But why worry? The Indian Air Force ranks above the PLAAF in some kinda Global Airpower Ranking. You Jai Hinds said it yourselves.
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Jai Hind!
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The ranking does not take into account real world data. Russia should be number one by wide margin. technology is moving too fast for some thing static like stealth.
UAE President went to India for three hour visit. essentially want to hire India as mercenary to fight Iran.
Since India chicken out India has to accept humiliation of new Fatherland and much more. and UAE is in search of Air defense and only that Korean missile system outperformed that is clown of Russian system.
UAE is always present in nearly every prisoner exchange of Ukraine and Russia.
Iran does not have smaller TELs like HIMAR hidden in forests and it is still launching missiles. Iran has tunnels but how many doors to it that cannot be observed 24/7?
What does it say about capability of stealth fighters to get closer to the target despite help of drones and satellites in real time which Iran may or may not aware of it. Stealth does not add much even in uncontested airspace. Closer to target is important since US Fighters does not have hypersonic missiles.
Recently Russia used more Zircons. This shows sensors of Su-57 and Su-34 with external pods improved enough to find many smaller targets in real time and they may have used air launched version since they mentioned 220kg warhead in one of Arabic news and Ukrainian air force spokesman said they were over loaded with ballistic trajectory missiles. Ukranian get estimates since they count the launchers.
If Russia can find targets than next standoff weopons will be next generation aero ballistic missiles using real time data from airborne and space sensors. That trajectory change after firing. This 800 Kg warhead of aero ballistic missile is replacement of bunker buster bombs. that 10 minute at 5400 km. this speed needed to deal with some targets. obviously they are going beyond these speeds.
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October 2, 2025,
Russia has modernized the Iskander-M and Kinzhal missiles: a military expert has pointed out a new threat of attacks.
A military expert explained that
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is a continuation of the Iskander missile, meaning it's a modernization. It's essentially the same missile, but it's launched from an aircraft. The missile accelerates to 10-12 times the speed of a conventional missile during its initial trajectory. The key is that during its final trajectory, the missile has the ability to maneuver and change its trajectory.
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Bellum_Romanum said:
tdWho gives a damn what this pompous simp has to say about China? Just because the man can speak Chinese doesn’t magically make him some all-knowing expert on everything Chinese. If his analytical skills were even half as good as he pretends they are, Australia and his Western patrons wouldn’t be in the absolute mess they’re in right now.
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I hate to comment on second-rate political analyses coming from seemingly respectable figures (Kevin Rudd) b/c these guys have already embarrassed themselves enough by putting their "thoughts" out there. But I'll make an exception here coz I wasted an hour of my life a few days ago listening to this circle-jerk from the Western NatSec ThinkTank crowd. The problem with the entire epsidoe (basically a book promotion by Rudd, head of the Asia Society) is not that he made no good points about XJP and the CPC, it's that Rudd's exposition at its most basic is just a rehashed Cold-War-1.0 style propaganda piece that stresses the spectre of Chinese Leninism. It's almost as if it's a focus-group-refined, by way of an Oxford D.Phil, warning to Western intellectuals who may be interested in "democractic socialism" (personally, when Rudd mentions Leninism, it actually makes me feel better about the CPC's future prospects against degeneration and corruption as a disciplined party that's focused on its historical tasks is far better for China than one that sits around in a sewing circile discussing the finer points of political morality, to paraphrase Lenin).

Rudd's references to his attempt years-ago to draw-out XJP over glasses of Australian Reds during a cold-night in the PM's residence in Canberra and to his fortuitous presence in Beijing in late May 1989 suggest to me that he likely has been a valued intelligence asset for the Five Eyes agencies thoughout his entire adult career, starting from his first Australian Foreign Services posing to Sweden.
 
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NoetherSpudCharge said:
I hate to comment on second-rate political analyses coming from seemingly respectable figures (Kevin Rudd) b/c these guys have already embarrassed themselves enough by putting their "thoughts" out there. But I'll make an exception here coz I wasted an hour of my life a few days ago listening to this circle-jerk from the Western NatSec ThinkTank crowd. The problem with the entire epsidoe (basically a book promotion by Rudd, head of the Asia Society) is not that he made no good points about XJP and the CPC, it's that Rudd's exposition at its most basic is just a rehashed Cold-War-1.0 style propaganda piece that stresses the spectre of Chinese Leninism. It's almost as if it's a focus-group-refined, by way of an Oxford D.Phil, warning to Western intellectuals who may be interested in "democractic socialism" (personally, when Rudd mentions Leninism, it actually makes me feel better about the CPC's future prospects against degeneration and corruption as a disciplined party that's focused on its historical tasks is far better for China than one that sits around in a sewing circile discussing the finer points of political morality, to paraphrase Lenin).

Rudd's references to his attempt years-ago to draw-out XJP over glasses of Australian Reds during a cold-night in the PM's residence in Canberra and to his fortuitous presence in Beijing in late May 1989 suggest to me that he likely has been a valued intelligence asset for the Five Eyes agencies thoughout his entire adult career, starting from his first Australian Foreign Services posing to Sweden.
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There would’ve been no threat from any form of Marxism if the elites weren’t so damn greedy in the first place. The way they behave is the best advertisement there is for alternative systems of economy and governance.
 
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sndef888 said:
Anyone with background in coding tell me how big of a deal this actually is?
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Well let's hear what OpenAI has to say about this news:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2078133895766114412
One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a "public good" which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of "digital public infrastructure." This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape, but I've never met an open-weight models advocate who doesn't ultimately concede this is where things end. You'd be surprised how many 'accelerationists' lobbied me, while I was in government, to support an eleven or twelve-figure federally funded data center so that startups could train models at a subsidy and then give them away for free. There was no other way for AI to progress, they said. Perhaps this is the logical end state of things. Nonetheless, I find myself surprised to see supposed accelerationists excited about such an outcome. I think many of them just don't know what they're doing. Many accelerationists do not view the creation and serving of frontier models as a legitimate business.
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I would guess that the Trump Administration will at some point realize that their best strategy here would be to create large amounts of regulatory risk around the use of open-weight Chinese models. You don't need to "ban open source" (one of the dumber motifs of AI policy discussion). You just need to direct every agency to issue soft law that creates FUD. "A Federal Reserve Advisory Bulletin found that there may be backdoors in Chinese AI models." It needn't be that well justified. You just create enough regulatory risk that every regulated enterprise backs off. You probably don't want to create so much regulatory risk that you scare off the hyperscalers from serving Chinese models; this will just drive startups to sketchier providers. There's a happy middle ground here. I'd assume they will do some version of this.
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Yeah I think it's a pretty big deal, they seem quite panicked.

I wonder how people pictures this "full AI communism" in their head, if it's anything like post-scarcity Automated Socialism lead by benevolent Chinese AI girl then I'm in:
 
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