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Eventine

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Where did you get your half baked education on Chinese history? You bascially ignored everything Mao said before he reached that conclusion.

Do you know that Mao and CCP are Marxists? A Marxist believes that the very fundation of anything human created is economy and everything else serves that purpose, gun is just one of the many.

Before Marxism reached China, Chinese have idea of similar spirit, that is that "violent force" is the least thing keeping the state afloat. Meng Zi (Mencius) made that clear more than 2000 years ago. Tang Taizong as the greatest emperor made that clear again 1400 years ago.
Tang Taizong took power by murdering the crown prince & another of his brothers in the Xuanwu Gate incident, after his family overthrew the Sui Dynasty (after the latter had wasted its armies in a disastrous campaign against Goguryeo), with the help of the Gokturks (to whom Li Yuan had earlier bent the knee), before turning on them and defeating them in a series of key battles that ushered in Tang hegemony in East Asia.

Mencius’s state of Zou was destroyed by Chu which was then destroyed by Qin, which was then destroyed by Xiang Yu, who was then defeated by Liu Bang at the Battle of Gaixia, ushering forth four hundred years of peace under the unified Han empire.

Let’s not confuse Neo-Confucian propaganda for historical facts, shall we? Mao didn’t, and that’s why the CCP rules today.
 

montyp165

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I think you’re both right on the narrow fuel math, but that’s exactly why I don’t see this as “just” a Gulf supply issue. The interesting question is who this situation structurally traps, and that’s where China comes in.Yes, ASEAN is the weakest link on sheer days‑of‑cover.

Most Southeast Asian states are sitting on roughly 1–3 months of stocks, while Japan/Korea are closer to 200–240 days when you add public + commercial. That means a prolonged Hormuz disruption hits ASEAN first and hardest; no argument there.But China is not a free energy backstop; it’s in the same chokehold.

China imports approx 1–12 mb/d of crude, over half of it from the Gulf, and most of that flows through the same Hormuz–Malacca corridor everyone else depends on. In a real multi‑month crisis, Beijing is scrambling to cover its own transport and industry, drawing down its SPR, and bidding against India/Japan/Korea for non‑Gulf barrels. It can drip some barrels to Vietnam or others “at a price,” but it’s not sitting safely onshore while ASEAN drowns. That’s why I read the Iran war as a China story underneath the Iran/Israel story.

Look at who actually gets squeezed hardest by a hot Hormuz:China + ASEAN + Japan + Korea are far more dependent on those sea‑lanes than the US is. ASEAN has turned into China’s biggest export market and key manufacturing platform. China has been trying to deepen its role in West Asia (including brokering the Iran–Saudi détente) to reduce its reliance on US‑centric markets and security. If you put that together, a sustained Iran/Gulf crisis doesn’t just “hurt everyone.” It specifically undermines China’s energy security, its ASEAN pivot, and its new diplomatic inroads in the Gulf.Meanwhile, who sits on the real leverage?

The US and its allies still dominate blue‑water control over Hormuz and Malacca, and the dollar system that clears the bulk of oil trade. That doesn’t make a Gulf war costless for Washington—far from it—but it does mean the relative pain is tilted toward Beijing and its Asian partners. So to me the deeper play isn’t “ASEAN suffers, so production goes back to China.” It’s more like: an Iran‑centric crisis is being used (consciously or not) to put China back in a box—by threatening its energy lifeline, rattling its main growth corridor (ASEAN+West Asia), and reminding everyone that ultimate control of the choke points still lives with the US Navy, not with Beijing.

You can argue how deliberate that is, but structurally the Iran war looks a lot more like a move in the US–China game than a standalone spat over Iran’s nukes.
Key thing however is that China has access to Russian and Central Asian oil and gas suppliers, on top of their own untapped oil reserves and syngas generation from coal, so supply itself is less of the issue than pricing (which is what the ME and Venezuelan sources help buffer). ASEAN however is more vulnerable by default due to the means of shipping fuel supplies as opposed to pipeline based supply (as their consumption rate is greater than their domestic supply can provide) and their electrical generation capacity from alternative energy sources as a proportion of total generative capacity is also far lower to boot.
 

supercat

Colonel
Power is when you are currently knee deep in a war that has expended 3,000 munitions in the first few days and upended the global economy, part of which was to distract from the fact your entire inner circle are pedophiles and China is still the number one thing on your minds.

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Instead of spreading propaganda about China, Western spin doctors should ask themselves: why the US or NATO is not fighting Russia in Ukraine?

How to make sure Iran's new government is Israel-US leaning:
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The air war against Iran is not going well and Trump is really frustrated.
 
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tokenanalyst

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A damn death cult these cowards are.

If they want to start the "Armageddon" they should be first to go the D.C. Where the first TOPOL will land. But not exactly in the white house because that would be too quick and painless, like 2km-3km so the skin melts away and in the direction of the wind so they can absorb the beautiful Armageddon radiative dust in their lungs and have a painful slow death.

But NO lets buy an expensive bunker most people in the US can´t afford so I can survive my billionaire ass in a Nuclear War, that I helped to cause, praying, while the average people in the US die.

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Thecore

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Power is when you are currently knee deep in a war that has expended 3,000 munitions in the first few days and upended the global economy, part of which was to distract from the fact your entire inner circle are pedophiles and China is still the number one thing on your minds.

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Actually a pretty apt comparison since they 100% got the "power is power" quote from Cersei from Game of Thrones. Cersei was a sociopathic, entitled dipshit whose opinion of her own intelligence was 1000X higher than it should of been.
 
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TPenglake

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Vietnam is already half self-sufficient, plus they have 25th world highest proven oil reserves.

And most importantly, it's a socialist country, and its energy sector is largely nationalised.

Meaning that they can stabilise and subsidize prices very effectively, unlike Japan and SK.
80% of Vietnam's oil is imported and 90% of that oil came from Kuwait. Considering how rapidly the country's manufactering sector has been expanding over the years, domestic and SEA sources of oil are insufficient, so the longer the war goes on the more pain they'll feel and the more manufactering will have to switch back to China.
 

Cr4ckSh0t

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He teaches a geopolitics course at a Beijing high school. He got famous last year during the 12 day war when a video of him predicting an US invasion of Iran from a year prior blew up. His channel, Predictive History, discusses a wide range of topics and he has some pretty wild ideas. Essentially he analyzes history and then tries to use game theory to predictive future major global events in his class. After the short war he doubled down and predicted that the US would try again. As you can expect, his videos are blowing up again now that this is coming true.

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Imagine writing an article about China's "bullying" and economic "coercion" when we're seeing your country kidnap and kill heads of state while openly stating it wants to control resources. White culture needs to drop its god complex, it was irritating before but now it's getting dangerous.

He's probably got ties to the glowies like CIA. Maybe even working for them. Intelligence agencies tend to pick guys from places like Yale and Brigham Young uni.

So it's easy to know what happens when you literally get inside info.

I like the guy's videos but I think he was a CIA agent

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9dashline

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Instead of spreading propaganda about China, Western spin doctors should ask themselves: why the US or NATO is not fighting Russia in Ukraine?

How to make sure Iran's new government is Israel-US leaning:
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The air war against Iran is not going well and Trump is really frustrated.
He just needs to pay for more Claude Opus Max 20x subscriptions and also start grinding more with Chatgpt 5.4 Thinking caps on ...
 
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