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sndef888

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In just one interview, Trump threatened to invade Colombia, Cuba, Mexico, Iran and Greenland

And what do we get? Utter silence from western media and politicians. And tons of people still trying to justify Maduro's kidnapping. All their propaganda about being morally superior has fallen apart.

Really proves that the entire west is made up of weak willed, propagandised people with no principles. Makes all their whining about China so much more laughable and hypocritical.

Though, it's really funny to see the west get a taste of their own medicine. All the same tactics of political interference and boiling frog propaganda being used against their own allies. They're finally experiencing what has been happening to China for years.
 
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manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Absolute crickets from the western countries, leaders, news media on this Venezuelan kidnapping.

Say what you want about America, but it's willing to use the military power in its hands to achieve goals. And the precision shown in this operation must be applauded. Now, a foreign president has to face US charges in a US court in a US city, American press is in full manufacturing consent mode, and Trump has truly "killed the chicken to scare the monkey".

Whereas China can only issue strongly worded statements or conduct "naval exercises" in face of enemy countries, even neighbouring ones, that provoke it at every opportunity.

All these talks about "globalized economic order" and "measured approach" are absolutely useless. Where are the sanctions against US? Boycotts? Who's confiscating US assets?
That is the game of ascension from challenging superpower to dominant superpower. Military capabilities lag behind technological prowess which lags behind economic vitality. Lots of people see China's economic power and technological growth that has surpassed the US in many crucial domains, then they foolishly think that that means China can just run the US over all over the world. But no, because China's military power, more precisely, the ability to project military power outside of Asia is not yet up to the point where we can challenge the US military around the globe. So these foolish people who want to jump the gun will just have to complain for longer until China's military power catches up to its technological overmatch against the US.
China will continue "bidding its time" for another decade plus while watching S.Korea and Japan re-arm and further encircle its island chains. In contrast, America will take down Cuba, Greenland, and secure the entirety of the North and South Americas.
Young lion vs old lion. Old lion is all about using its tools, politics, positioning while the young lion is all about growth. I know you are depressed because the emotional victory from invading an enemy country is more gratifying than making progress in a lab so it feels like China's victories aren't as visible but the reason the US is acting like this is because the old lion is desperate and frustrated at being outgrown.
Japanese nuclearization is absolutely the worst thing that can happen to China. It removes the military option of hitting Japanese mainland off the table. It makes it so the "Japanese issue" will never be solved.

I would consider it a bigger failure of the CCP than Taiwan successfully declaring independence.
How did you think the Japanese issue was going to be solved, by invading and occupying Japan? Beat the US out of Asia, become the world's most powerful nation, and the Japanese issue will be solved. And if not, a few Japanese nukes don't make them invulnerable. The is surprise saturation strike and missile interception. Nukes don't make everything equal; a small country with nukes is still at a disadvantage compared to a large nation with many more nukes.
Another 10,000 sqkm of those mountains wouldn't move the needle strategically. This victory is "quiet" because everyone knows its meaningless.
Capturing the Venezuelan president doesn't move the needle strategically. All the things that move the needle are done every year in Chinese labs, military and civilian but you think they're not flashy enough. Then when China captures territory, you complain it's meaningless. This is exactly what people mean by white worship because US actions right now are what everyone knows is meaningless, except to give the MAGA crowd something to get drunk to.
I'm referring to all these world organizations that were gung-ho over Russia/Ukraine. The issue isn't China not sanctioning US over this, it's that the entire world will not take any action, besides some UN statements. It shows that we're past the point of "rules based order" and fully in the era of power politics. And the Chinese leadership, relying on measured approaches and developing quietly, is being caught off guard.
The world is useless. Only China's slow grind to overtake the US economically, then technologically, then militarily will be the final say in how the future of the world is shaped.
 

bsdnf

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The short-term solution to fundamentally address resource import dependency is to seek import substitutes, while the long-term approach lies in resolving the dependency itself. What Beijing needs to do, and has consistently done, is to accelerate its electrification transformation.

But certainly not by frantically chasing after the so-called domino like a mad dog.
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supersnoop

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Honestly, anyone who is impressed by the US operation is missing the forest.

Military-wise, of course a very well executed operation. However, just beating up third world countries again…

Trump needs a win, midterm elections are coming and he was shamed by the Epstein photos. Cracks in the MAGA base were forming.

Talking about oil, literally yesterday’s fuel. Only the US policy is foolish enough to continue to promote it because 50% of that country believes solar and EVs emit rays that turn your kids into “homos” or “trannys”. Meanwhile in places like Africa, affordable solar panels are changing people’s lives.
 

enroger

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Honestly, anyone who is impressed by the US operation is missing the forest.

Military-wise, of course a very well executed operation. However, just beating up third world countries again…

Trump needs a win, midterm elections are coming and he was shamed by the Epstein photos. Cracks in the MAGA base were forming.

Talking about oil, literally yesterday’s fuel. Only the US policy is foolish enough to continue to promote it because 50% of that country believes solar and EVs emit rays that turn your kids into “homos” or “trannys”. Meanwhile in places like Africa, affordable solar panels are changing people’s lives.

I'm not impressed by the military aspect, not at all. I am however very impressed by the intelligence aspect, US ability to infiltrate and bribe their way into these countries is extremely impressive, and it is this aspect I think China is lacking.

Easy to compare this operation with their abysmal performance against the Houthis.....or the Taliban. No traitors, no cheap win.

I'm starting to think this is not just to get Venezuelan oil (though 5% of China's import is not trivial), but in a larger picture to deter countries from making deals with China, Belt and Roads, commodities trade with rmb...etc.

China can have all the best intention and all the best incentives for various nation's overall benefits, but none of that is more persuasive than a gun point to your face. They make a deal with China, then they got flipped, then people here will just blame those stupid little nations for being weak, talk about winology.....

In the case of Venezuela I honestly don't think there is anything China could have done, but people need to pull their head out of the sand. The world is going low, if people think China can keep walking the high road without ever getting it's hands dirty they need to stop being naïve.
 
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tamsen_ikard

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I still smile when I recall Iran purchased Russian jets instead of Chinese. Did they receive the deliveries yet?
You are assuming China was actually willing to sell Jets to Iran, which I doubt. China will not piss of both Gulf Arabs and US and create unnecessary tension. Since MBS Saudis were very anti-Iran, only maybe changing in the last 2-3 years.

China operates in a very discreet manner when it comes to the Middle East. They most of the time they Bow down to US dictates in the middle east.
 

supersnoop

Colonel
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I'm not impressed by the military aspect, not at all. I am however very impressed by the intelligence aspect, US ability to infiltrate and bribe their way into these countries is extremely impressive, and it is this aspect I think China is lacking.

Easy to compare this operation with their abysmal performance against the Houthis.....or the Taliban. No traitors, no cheap win.
It’s not lacking, they bribed all they way into the Taiwan presidential security detail.

It’s just that I don’t think they will gain anything from these kinds of operations. Let’s say they did this in Taiwan, then DPP would still be in power and just have more ammo. A pointless exercise.

I saw another person suggest Philippines… that country is so corrupt that they sold out their own former president all on their own. So it would become a never ending bribery cycle with no real benefit. Maybe you can kick out US forces, but the main bulk of forces is in Japan anyway.
 
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