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FriedButter said:
She implies diplomatic relations with China gets under her skin while sending letters to ROC President Lai. If I remember she also said Japanese troops may be sent to Taiwan. I don’t consider someone openly stirring up a world war as reasonable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1974888004390203410
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To me, it's very reasonable that Japan should definitely get directly militarily involved with Taiwan so that China will have a great reason to directly bomb Japan. In fact, I wish Japan would be even more reasonable and immediately launch a full scale invasion of China today so that they can be definitively defeated and annexed.
TK3600 said:
If natives are as anti foriegner as Chinese they would have lived. But instead they mingled and adopted their religion, and those are the first one to go. The one that fiercedly resisted lasted til 19th century. All your examples only prove you more wrong.
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I think you misunderstand something essential. To be anti-foreigner is a completely different thing from being insular. To be insular is to be very ignorant of foreign ways and means. To not understand the methods they use to infiltrate, undermine, corrupt, or attack you. And hence to not understand how best to defend and counterattack. Someone who is insular tends to only understand the ways and means of those in the culture they grew up in. Japan and South Korea are very insular.

One can be both insular and anti-foreigner. Many Westerners are. Those ones typically resist foreign influence in futility and then lose like the MAGA types.

Then of course you can also be insular and pro-foreigner. Many libshit Chinese who have not traveled, lived, or worked in the West very much are. They do not really understand the West beyond flattering but incorrect generalizations, and so they aspire to, admire, or even worship it.

You can be worldly and pro-foreigner, like the libshits that have the money and time to travel extensively, live/study/work abroad, and understand the world abroad but still admire and worship the West. Usually because it's just a dressed up form of worshiping what they perceive as superior and looking down on what they perceive as inferior, rightly or wrongly. These types are likely to blow in the direction of the wind and change their orientation when they see the fortunes of the two groups have sufficiently reversed. I imagine a majority of Hong Kongers and Singaporeans fall into this category.

Lastly, you can be worldly and anti-foreigner. You have the time, upbringing, education, training, and/or resources to understand the foreigners and yet still understand they are your greatest adversary. You know their ways and means and how best to defend or counterattack. I suspect a reasonable proportion of key decision makers in CPC likely fall into this category.
 
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hifisnow said:
I learned to call this mentality “嬷自己” from cnet. These eurocucks love to exaggerate and make stuff up to pity themselves (conveniently about China which has no threat to them but never dare to apply this vibe to their actual master - America).

This is mental masturbation. But this vibe based worldview that refuses to face reality will only reinforce their dumbass decline cycle because they don’t have that advantage in organized violence anymore.
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China: please have some self respect and get out of the cuck chair.
Eurocucks: no.
China: I’m gonna release the tape to the world if you don’t.
Eurocucks: hold on let’s talk about this.
China: no. Either you get up or I’ll release the tape.
 
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TK3600 said:
Romans thrived for centuries before they started mass import foriegners. Not saying there needs to be complete racial purity, but anyone you incorporate must be assimilated one at a time, in no world should they keep their identity. That goes out of window if you import them en mass, fail to convert them in time.

China imported barbarians in Tang dynasty, that ended them, until the barbarians are driven out. Bad example. Modern PRC dominated the barbarians and incoprorated them through total Han majority domination. It never would have worked out if Han was say 40% of the population, or 60-70%.

Not saying your must have X gene to be Han, but it was the accumulated centuries of slow conversion of identity. Absorption is the key word. And absorption can only happen with total domination and a vast majority culture.
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I fully agree that a country should only accept people who are willing to learn from their surrounding and adapt to the local culture instead of being hung up on their archaic traditions.

At the same time I believe that with steadily rising standards of living and with new advancements in technology, especially in transportation, globalization will march on and would become an even bigger force. It‘s only a matter of which cultures would in the end dominate the world since global culture would eventually homogenize. When a culture is perceived as „cool“, people tend to adapt it. That‘s how American culture became wildly popular around the world. You take a middle class person in early 2000s almost anywhere in the world bar for ultra-conservative societies, he/she would ve compatible with the American culture and would have made an excellent citizen there. Growing up in early 2000s you had TV shows, movies with leads belonging to all sorts of ethnicites. Yet, none of the nonsense talking points of „woke“, culture wars etc. existed back then.

The problem that you see nowadays on one hand is caused by a demographic that got rich all of a sudden and who are not exactly used to their higher standards of living. For example, I had an Indian guy tell me that even Pasta is a luxury where he comes from. It takes time for these people to get used to a modern lifestyle and just like that the current trend of immigration phobia would disappear as these poeple learn to behave better. On the other hand you have ultra-conservative ideologies coming from the MENA region which I think would also disappear as it happened in Iran. So long story short, IMO these problem are temporary. One should be careful before making long term doom and gloom predictions based on the curent state of affairs.

Now when it comes to China, it now has an unique opportunity to be one of the most dominant cultures across the globe just like American culture and it‘s beyong me, why anyone would miss up on that opportunity.
 
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To me, it's very reasonable that Japan should definitely get directly militarily involved with Taiwan so that China will have a great reason to directly bomb Japan. In fact, I wish Japan would be even more reasonable and immediately launch a full scale invasion of China today so that they can be definitively defeated and annexed.

I think you misunderstand something essential. To be anti-foreigner is a completely different thing from being insular. To be insular is to be very ignorant of foreign ways and means. To not understand the methods they use to infiltrate, undermine, corrupt, or attack you. And hence to not understand how best to defend and counterattack. Someone who is insular tends to only understand the ways and means of those in the culture they grew up in. Japan and South Korea are very insular.

One can be both insular and anti-foreigner. Many Westerners are. Those ones typically resist foreign influence in futility and then lose like the MAGA types.

Then of course you can also be insular and pro-foreigner. Many libshit Chinese who have not traveled, lived, or worked in the West very much are. They do not really understand the West beyond flattering but incorrect generalizations, and so they aspire to, admire, or even worship it.

You can be worldly and pro-foreigner, like the libshits that have the money and time to travel extensively, live/study/work abroad, and understand the world abroad but still admire and worship the West. Usually because it's just a dressed up form of worshiping what they perceive as superior and looking down on what they perceive as inferior, rightly or wrongly. These types are likely to blow in the direction of the wind and change their orientation when they see the fortunes of the two groups have sufficiently reversed. I imagine a majority of Hong Kongers and Singaporeans fall into this category.

Lastly, you can be worldly and anti-foreigner. You have the time, upbringing, education, training, and/or resources to understand the foreigners and yet still understand they are your greatest adversary. You know their ways and means and how best to defend or counterattack. I suspect a reasonable proportion of key decision makers in CPC likely fall into this category.
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You are completely missing the point. The original poster was talking about mass import foriegners. And as I was saying that is super stupid because native Americans tried to coexist instead of being 'worldly'. Japan would be correct to avoif the mistake unlike the first poster.
 
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TK3600 said:
You are completely missing the point. The original poster was talking about mass import foriegners. And as I was saying that is super stupid because native Americans tried to coexist instead of being 'worldly'. Japan would be correct to avoif the mistake unlike the first poster.
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Japan is not worldly. They are insular and anti-foreigner. And that's fine by me. I'd rather they not import Indians. That way they can demographically collapse and China can swoop in at their moment of greatest weakness to annex them.
 
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TK3600 said:
You are completely missing the point. The original poster was talking about mass import foriegners. And as I was saying that is super stupid because native Americans tried to coexist instead of being 'worldly'. Japan would be correct to avoif the mistake unlike the first poster.
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Wrong. I am just against xenophobia and scared little frogs in the well mentality. I want people to aim higher. History doesn‘t stop here. There are more ambitious things to do in the coming centuries which we won‘t achieve by being shivering little babies tucked inside a blanket.
 
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uguduwa said:
I fully agree that a country should only accept people who are willing to learn from their surrounding and adapt to the local culture instead of being hung up on their archaic traditions.

At the same time I believe that with steadily rising standards of living and with new advancements in technology, especially in transportation, globalization will march on and would become an even bigger force. It‘s only a matter of which cultures would in the end dominate the world since global culture would eventually homogenize. When a culture is perceived as „cool“, people tend to adapt it. That‘s how American culture became wildly popular around the world. You take a middle class person in early 2000s almost anywhere in the world bar for ultra-conservative societies, he/she would ve compatible with the American culture and would have made an excellent citizen there. Growing up in early 2000s you had TV shows, movies with leads belonging to all sorts of ethnicites. Yet, none of the nonsense talking points of „woke“, culture wars etc. existed back then.

The problem that you see nowadays on one hand is caused by a demographic that got rich all of a sudden and who are not exactly used to their higher standards of living. For example, I had an Indian guy tell me that even Pasta is a luxury where he comes from. It takes time for these people to get used to a modern lifestyle and just like that the current trend of immigration phobia would disappear as these poeple learn to behave better. On the other hand you have ultra-conservative ideologies coming from the MENA region which I think would also disappear as it happened in Iran. So long story short, IMO these problem are temporary. One should be careful before making long term doom and gloom predictions based on the curent state of affairs.

Now when it comes to China, it now has an unique opportunity to be one of the most dominant cultures across the globe just like American culture and it‘s beyong me, why anyone would miss up on that opportunity.
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No. Adoption is insufficient. Japanese adopted Chinese idea and went around killing Chinese. Europeans adopted culture of world and enslaved everyone. Mongolians genocided the world while afopting their religion. No, they must completely give up their root, completely assimilate, willing to work and die for the nee culture and forget their old one even existed. Them merely adopting is just figuring out better ways to beat you.
 
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Temstar said:
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Now we shall see what the true value of white supremacy truly is to a nation.
Maikeru said:
Er, mass immigration from alien races worked even worse for them. She's not actually saying Japan should cut itself off from the world entirely, just that Japan would be better off with a smaller population than mass importing 3rd worlders. The European experience supports this position, IMO.
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mass importing the third world only truly benefits real estate and sectors of the economy that reky on increasing consumption. It’s easy therefore to see how the west have become feudal with elites pushing for such mass migration policies against the wishes of their people, very democratic, very chic.

FriedButter said:
So FT claims that China PL-15 and PL-17 technology came from an UAE AI company. Lmao.



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They really cling onto their religion that “Chinese can’t innovate”, this is like the western version of “kung fu can deflect bullets” of the Boxer rebellion. I hope they maintain this argument in the face of DF-17.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1982108302155899214

further on the Rand report, how mistranslations by loser laowai types ie pottinger, et al with a hate boner for China, how all of this contributed to the american shock of chinas rise. Now, when westerners visit China they can see for themselves what the truth really is and the effect is no different to Soviet citizens smuggling western music and products back to the Soviet Union back in the 80s.
 
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Japan is not worldly. They are insular and anti-foreigner. And that's fine by me. I'd rather they not import Indians. That way they can demographically collapse and China can swoop in at their moment of greatest weakness to annex them.
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Does not matter. Mass import foriegner is never a good idea whether you are smart or not. It is always good to be smart and it is always bad to replace your demographic to foriegners, these two are unrelated.

I would choose to be like China, to be wise and unified. But if I must pick between MAGA or native Americans, always MAGA.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
China: please have some self respect and get out of the cuck chair.
Eurocucks: no.
China: I’m gonna release the tape to the world if you don’t.
Eurocucks: hold on let’s talk about this.
China: no. Either you get up or I’ll release the tape.
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The cuckchair has a dildo with many barbs they're sitting on. If they get up, it'll shred their rectum and prostate apart. China should be more understanding of that hidden reality.
 
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