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iewgnem said:
I was thinking why the Dutch are so insistent that they committed the crime alone and not on America's instructions.

Aside from direct application of Hanlon's Razor: they're just stupid, one theory that could make sense is they know about China's anti-sanction law that require China retaliate against individuals or entities that implement or assist with sanctions against China, they might believe by framing the theft as a Dutch national security thing, and not as part of US sanctions, they can avoid Chinese retaliation by arguing it doesn't trigger China's anti-sanction law.

This would also be compatible with Hanlon's Razor since it's also r*tarded.
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I'm thinking it is done on the request of US, with America offering some concession (or bribe).
 
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FriedButter said:
I don't think Venezuela has the capabilities to grind out in the jungles. Even if they did then it will likely end up not being a long issue. They are effectively isolated from any material aid or support due to their poor latin American relations and geographical position.
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Clandestine supplies can easily flow from amazon jungle borders of colombia, brazil and many other places. Venezuela just needs to do guerilla warfare vietnam style
 
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FriedButter said:
I don't think Venezuela has the capabilities to grind out in the jungles. Even if they did then it will likely end up not being a long issue. They are effectively isolated from any material aid or support due to their poor latin American relations and geographical position.
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Mountainous jungle borders with Colombia, Brazil, and poor Suriname makes guerilla supply easy.

Yemen is more isolated with US allies on two borders + NATO presence on remaining coastal borders. Yet, it's still firing.
 
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tokenanalyst said:
US soldiers in the unforgiven Venezuelan jungle it giving Vietnam vibes:
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is it really the same situation as vietnam though? the us only came in to bookend a century of occupation. without even throwing in the prospect of latent rebellious sentiments stemming from their historical relationship to china, there's a lot of time for vietnamese nationalism to have built up on. that ww2 was still fresh on the minds of the living only helped to cement support for sovereign nationalism.

now, what exactly is venezuela? do venezuelans have a clear cultural history and identity as the vietnamese do? or have their natives already been broken by the spanish conquests, the remainders filled with mystery meat mestizos?
About 51% of the population is mestizo (mixed white and indigenous); Europeans and Arabs (whites) make up 43% of the population, Africans 3.6%, Amerindian people 2%,
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this is frankly worse than i expected, but im not surprised. deposition of maduro will not feel to the venezuelan as an existential threat to their culture; it is not 'alien sensibilities taking over'. that has already been accomplished by the conquistadors centuries ago.

i do not predict the us getting significantly bogged down in venezuela.
 
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burritocannon said:
is it really the same situation as vietnam though? the us only came in to bookend a century of occupation. without even throwing in the prospect of latent rebellious sentiments stemming from their historical relationship to china, there's a lot of time for vietnamese nationalism to have built up on. that ww2 was still fresh on the minds of the living only helped to cement support for sovereign nationalism.

now, what exactly is venezuela? do venezuelans have a clear cultural history and identity as the vietnamese do? or have their natives already been broken by the spanish conquests, the remainders filled with mystery meat mestizos?

this is frankly worse than i expected, but im not surprised. deposition of maduro will not feel to the venezuelan as an existential threat to their culture; it is not 'alien sensibilities taking over'. that has already been accomplished by the conquistadors centuries ago.

i do not predict the us getting significantly bogged down in venezuela.
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Do remember that the US was 35% of global GDP in 1970 and that 35% was heavy on industry and agriculture. Their leaders were also hardened WW2 veterans.

Today US GDP is around 25%, almost all of it is services, and their leaders are veterans of... well...
 
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